• masquenox@lemmy.world
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          Because Arab lives have no value in Israeli western society.

          FTFY.

          To be fair, Jewish lives also only matters to the west if they are busy murdering brown people.

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            It depends on the Western country - some are much worse than others when it comes to the whole practice of defining people’s worth mainly from their race.

            Some Western nations (maybe most of them in Europe) do tend to see value in all human live, Arab or otherwise, but many to indeed see no value in Arab life.

            If I was to point a finger at the worst in Europe I would say Britain, Hungary, Austria and Germany.

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      Terrorism, in its broadest sense, is the use of violence against non-combatants to achieve political or ideological aims.

      While it’s likely there were civilians hurt by this, the target was undeniably Hesbollah. So no, not terrorism.

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        Likely because the bulk of those wounded by this attack were not Hezbollah

        I don’t even know how you’d reasonably expect to only injure your targets in an attack as widespread and remote as this one. Seems blatantly indiscriminate at best.

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          Likely because the bulk of those wounded by this attack were not Hezbollah

          What makes you think that? These pagers were bought by Hesbollah to be used by their guys.

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            At least 12 people were killed after the attacks,[60][1][61] and more than 2,750 were wounded.[5][6] Civilians were also killed,[10][13][14] including four healthcare workers[62] and two children.[63] It is not clear if only Hezbollah members were carrying the pagers.[19] Lebanese Health Minister Firass Abiad said the vast majority of those being treated in emergency rooms were in civilian clothing and their Hezbollah affiliation was unclear.[64] He added the casualties included elderly people as well as young children. According to the Lebanese Health Ministry, healthcare workers were also injured and it advised all healthcare workers to discard their pagers.[64][65]

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            These pagers were bought by Hesbollah

            All we know is that a bunch of exploding pagers were distributed through Lebanon. The IDF claims they were given to Hezbollah agents, but they’ve been caught lying regularly.

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            Uhhh, because these were bombs - bombs that were remotely and indiscriminately detonated. Some of the people were driving, some standing next to children or on busses full of people. There are reports of children who died because they were standing next to a target at head-level with the pager.There’s no guarantee they were even being carried by “Hezbollah’s guys”.

            I don’t even know why anyone would assume otherwise. This was a loosely targeted terror attack

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        Israel is a terrorist organization. Radical, fundamentalist Jewish terrorism.

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          National order isnt based on tit for tat. If someone commits a war crime against you it doesnt mean you get to do it too.

          In my opinion the time of day they chose to blow them shows they wanted as much collateral damage as they could.

          What’s the advantage of making excuses for committing war crimes?

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            At a certain point it stops being worth it. If sending a brainwashed 11 yo to blow up a checkpoint means you can no longer trust having any technology near you, your family and friends it might cause hesitation.

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                  No I’m saying it won’t stop the fighting because its not a choice they can make. Theres either negotiation or fighting but negotiation only works from equal footing. I don’t like violence and war of course but its not the fault of the group with less bargaining power. The larger group needs to give up power willingly to fix anything. Russia to Ukraine, Israel to Palestine and Lebanon.

          • 【J】【u】【s】【t】【Z】@lemmy.world
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            Is there any time of day it’s not atrocious? Seems like any time would have basically equal risk for collateral casualties.

            To be effective it all had to be at once. It seems that they waited until the pagers were being used to coordinate a fresh wave of rocket attacks with promises of more to come before setting them off.