• applemao@lemmy.world
    1·
    28 minutes ago

    I still want to get into coding the OG manual way (because I enjoy pain and disappointment apparently) but now it seems like a waste of time since vibe coders and 13 year olds already are lightyears ahead of me. Also I have no reason to learn it, all apps are already built xD

    • OldChicoAle@lemmy.world
      1·
      14 minutes ago

      I’m in the same boat. I used to be an amateur front and back end web developer. Almost made a text based RPG in middle school. I had to stop when shit got crazy in high school and college, but I don’t feel like any programming is worth my time right now. I’m focusing on gardening and maybe some cooking. You know, human activities that we can still enjoy.

  • RogueBanana@lemmy.zipEnglish
    7·
    3 hours ago

    I can’t remember some syntax unless I do it at least 100 times. I often look up stuff that I have already done before and know because of my goldfish memory.

    • letsgo@lemm.eeEnglish
      2·
      11 minutes ago

      Same way you did it in 2024 but it’s easier because the springgirdles have been replaced with rotated manglebrackets.

    • Blackmist@feddit.ukEnglish
      6·
      5 hours ago

      Depends if you’re centering the div or the things in the div. Which has probably been the main issue since CSS was invented.

    • Rose@slrpnk.net
      13·
      7 hours ago

      If using plain CSS, usually it’s enough to set width appropriately, and margin-left and margin-right to auto.

      If using a Modern Frontend/CSS Framework, then may God have mercy on your poor soul.

      (Seriously I just started a new project with TailwindCSS and I’m so confused. But not entirely desperate yet.)

      • loics2@lemm.ee
        3·
        2 hours ago

        w-... mx-auto, replace the 3 dots with your desired width value, and that’s it with tailwind

        • toddestan@lemm.ee
          2·
          2 hours ago

          Generally I find many these frameworks will make some complicated things simple, but the cost is some things that were once simple are now complicated. They can be great if you just need the things they simplify - or in other words can stick to what they were intended for, but my favorite way of keeping things simple is to avoid using complicated and heavy frameworks.

        • Ricaz@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
          8·
          6 hours ago

          If you spend a lot of time on a single framework, you will transcend and become a sort of frontend diety, growing multiple extra limbs allowing you to type in CSS classes faster than any mere mortal

      • Ricaz@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        1·
        6 hours ago

        I’m doing a small hobby project (a ladder/ranking system for playing beer sports with my community), and I tried out Tailwind.

        I gave up and loaded Bootstrap instead, but I will probably end up just writing all the CSS myself.

        Seems so silly to have 15 CSS classes on a single DOM element…

    • impedans@lemmy.world
      8·
      9 hours ago

      If you define what you mean by centering I’ll give you a straight answer.

      Vertically? Horizontally? Center the text or the entire box? Compared to the viewport, the parent container or the entire page?

      “Centering” isn’t as straight forward as you’d think, and what you actually want usually depends on the situation.

      • Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
        1·
        53 minutes ago

        Fuck it, align=‘center’. That’ll center it horizontally relative to some context and if that’s not good enough then you should have been more precise in your request.

        • impedans@lemmy.world
          4·
          8 hours ago

          Yeah that works if you wanna center a box of content it relative to the parent container, either horizontally or vertically. For other situations we’ve got different tools

  • excral@feddit.org
    581·
    11 hours ago

    My experience is that the programmers from the first row very much still exist. My theory is that the number of programmers from the first row stayed the about same or even increased slightly. There are so many more so called “programmers” overall now, however, that in relation the first row programmers are much rarer now. And to be fair, you don’t need a programmer capable of programming entire games in assembly to center a div.

    • zerofk@lemm.ee
      21·
      11 hours ago

      And vice versa, you don’t need to know how to centre a div to create a game in assembler. I’m comfortable using pointers and managing memory, but don’t ask me to do anything with web UI.

      • Omgpwnies@lemmy.worldEnglish
        3·
        2 hours ago

        This can be generalized to say that programming has become such a diverse profession that you will find experts in one area that know very little about others. There’s simply too many things that are programmed in too many ways for anyone to know it all anymore. Hell, that was the case in the 70’s and 80’s too.

      • ByteJunk@lemmy.world
        12·
        11 hours ago

        I’m guessing that someone who figured out how to keep a high score box centered on screen using assembly will figure it out to do it with CSS.

        The reverse, not so much…

        • groet@feddit.org
          5·
          10 hours ago

          But you dont what the code of the assembly-style centered div in your codebase. Because nobody will be able to read it and understand what it even does. There are abstraction specific ways to solve problems and the right way to do something in assembly is not the right way to do it in CSS.

          • Estradiol Enjoyer @lemmy.blahaj.zone
            5·
            9 hours ago

            Agreed, in my limited experience with both CSS is like the conceptual opposite of assembly. When I do web design I tell it what I want to look like but can’t see how it’s getting there because that’s done for me. Assembly is the lowest level of abstraction we’ve got and it took me ages to write a little program for class that returns an argument in it (Jasmin VM) and then get GCC to compile it.

            I would say that CSS is like doing an incantation that magically makes the site look good if you do it right, and assembly is like building something by hand.

    • state_electrician@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
      4·
      4 hours ago

      I first tried vi in the early 90s, before I had easy access to online resources. I had to open a new shell and kill the vi process to exit it. Next time I dialed into my usual BBS I asked how to exit that thing. But since then I’ve liked it, because vi has been on every system I ever ssh’ed into.

      • barsoap@lemm.ee
        1·
        3 hours ago

        You quit it just like you quit ed or ex, just that you have to enter the prompt (:) yourself as vi is not by default in prompt mode. And you should know ed, ed is the standard editor.

        I use Helix btw.

    • ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world
      71·
      10 hours ago

      I can exit Vim, it just feels like trying to rip out the dashboard and the interiors from a family car because race cars also lack them. Kate is a good speedy alternative to VSCode, not to mention it also does not have Microsoft’s greedy hands on it.

        • toddestan@lemm.ee
          1·
          2 hours ago

          Out of the box, Vim’s default configuration is very basic as it’s trying to emulate vi as close as possible. It like if you want things like headlights or a heater or a tachometer in your family car, you got to create a vimrc and turn those features on. That was my experience when I first started using Vim - I spent a lot of time messing around creating a vimrc until I got things the way I wanted.

          One of the big changes with Neovim is their default settings are a lot more like what you would expect in a modern text editor.

  • jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works
    33·
    14 hours ago

    QA: “Yeah, Hi. Can you look at this defect ticket?”

    Reading ticket details…

    Me: “Let me guess. Is [whatshisname] responsible for this?”

    QA: “Yeah.”

    Me: “Get him to fix it.”

    QA: “I tried. Like four times.”

    Me: Sigh “I’ll take care of it.”

    QA: “Thank you!”

    • F04118F@feddit.nl
      9610·
      20 hours ago

      The majority of “programmers in the past” should be women actually, but our meme formats are still too patriarchal to express that in 2025.

      • moomoomoo309@programming.devEnglish
        6·
        6 hours ago

        “Creates a whole game in assembly” is probably referring to roller coaster tycoon, which was written by a man. (lots of other games were written in asm, like many NES games, but I’d wager RCT was what they were alluding to)

        • dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world
          1·
          1 hour ago

          That was my immediate thought. There were many that came before RCT, but it has the distinction of being (possibly) one of the last in an industry that had already moved on to higher-level languages to do merely half as much.

      • raman_klogius@ani.socialEnglish
        131·
        16 hours ago

        So were “computers”. It used to be a job, delegated mostly to women. The JD is doing calculations day in and day out.

      • rtxn@lemmy.world
        391·
        20 hours ago

        We need to bring back 2010-2012 rage comic memes. All we needed was a badly cut-out blonde wig to trans Derp’s gender.

      • snooggums@lemmy.worldEnglish
        10·
        19 hours ago

        The moon landing by hand wouldn’t have been as funny without the over the top body builders first.

      • reactionality@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
        937·
        20 hours ago

        “too patriarchal” no one was thinking of “furthering the goals of the patriarchy” or whatever your delusions tell you.

        It’s just people making memes, and most people who make memes who are guys will make memes with guys in them, because they identify with them the most.

        Your brain dead take is pure cancer.

        • F04118F@feddit.nl
          172·
          20 hours ago

          I agree with you: I never intended to imply explicit anti-diversity intentions or even awareness of the biases embedded in our culture.

          Implicit bias refers to the attitudes or stereotypes that affect our understanding, actions, and decisions in an unconscious manner. Implicit biases are activated involuntarily, unconsciously, and without one’s awareness or intentional control (see, e.g., Greenwald & Krieger, 2006; Kang, et al., 2012; Nier, 2005; Rudman, 2004a)

          Source

          • barsoap@lemm.ee
            61·
            16 hours ago

            The large initial percentage of female coders was due to computer having been a female job, because secretary was. Their role within companies didn’t change, what changed is that they were using machines to do the computing instead of doing it by hand.

            We’re kinda lucky to have the woke trifecta (Ada, Grace, Alan) (first programmer (woman), inventor of compilers (woman), absolute unit (gay)) to keep the chuds at bay. Even if we weren’t all socially inept nerds (or pretending to be so to bosses) there’s only so much you can do, culturally, if the population is growing exponentially. Uncle Bob (yes I know he’s a chud) did the maths at some point IIRC it was something like the number of programmers doubling every two years. Which also means that at any one point in time roughly 2/3rds of programmers have no idea what they’re doing, which explains the javascript ecosystem.

            • F04118F@feddit.nl
              1·
              9 hours ago

              So many great points in a short comment. I love your high bandwidth writing style!

        • Kichae@lemmy.caEnglish
          86·
          18 hours ago

          Dude. Chill. Ain’t nobody giving a shit about your take on someone else’s take.

  • hope@lemmy.world
    126·
    20 hours ago

    I feel very confident in my understanding of random 8 bit CPUs and their support chips, but asking me to center a div is like this xkcd.

      • qjkxbmwvz@startrek.website
        6·
        18 hours ago

        It is “backwards” from some other commands — usually you run copy/rsync/link from source to destination, but with tar the destination (tarball) is specified before the source (directory/files).

        That, and the flags not needing dashes always just throws me for a loop.

        And the icing on the cake is that I don’t use tar for tarring that often, so I lose all muscle memory (untaring a tgz or tar.bz2 is frequent enough that I can usually get that right at least…).

        • Ethan@programming.devEnglish
          2·
          15 hours ago

          I almost never create a tarball, so I have to look up the syntax for that. Which is as simple as man tar. But as far as extracting it almost couldn’t be easier, tar xf <tarball> and call it a day. Or if you want to list the contents without extracting, tar tf <tarball>. Unless you’re using an ancient version of tar, it will detect and handle whatever compression format you’re using without you having to remember if you need z or J or whatever.

      • Eager Eagle@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        16 hours ago

        I got tired of looking up the options for each possible combination of archiving + compression, so today I have a “magic” bash function that can extract almost any format.

        Then for compressing, I only use zip, which doesn’t need any args other than the archive name and the thing you’re compressing. It needs -r when recursing on dirs, but unlike “eXtract” and “Ze”, that’s a good mnemonic.

  • Lemminary@lemmy.world
    34·
    17 hours ago

    Hey buddy, if I fix one bug and cause three more, it’s called job security. Where’s my medal?

  • ButteryNickel@lemmy.wtf
    29·
    17 hours ago

    I once had an intern attempt to install sudo using NPM and when that didn’t work he asked ChatGPT “Why can’t I install sudo from NPM?” while I’m trying to explain it to him.

    He was smart, but somehow knew very little about commercial computers despite being on the verge of getting his master’s in computer science.