• solsangraal@lemmy.zip
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    13 days ago

    here’s the thing though: they’ll abolish the ACA, and when people start complaining, they’ll just blame everything on mexicans.

    and trump voters will 10000000% believe it

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      13 days ago

      blame everything on mexicans

      I’m sorry, it’s all my fault and I take full responsibility. I’ll make tamales with atole for the victims of my reckless Mexican behavior. 😔

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      13 days ago

      “Illegals smuggle our patriotic, expensive insulin out of the US, and we gotta build a wall facing the other direction to keep them in this time! We’ll use tariffs to get Mexico to pay for it!”

    • ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world
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      As a school bus driver, I work with a bunch of older people who are already utterly dependent on social security and medicare to have any semblance of a life that doesn’t involve living in a tent in the park and dumpster diving for dinner. They are mostly trumpers. We’re all Teamsters as well, and a few are married lesbians (and these are the most rabidly pro-trump of all). I have made a few attempts to convince them that trump (and Republicans for fucking decades) are out to destroy social security, medicare, unions and gay rights (among lots of other things) - but they reacted to me like I had grown an extra head. Somehow they’ve convinced themselves that the GOP is the original source and the protector of these things.

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        They are mostly trumpers.

        Spend all your time on a bus listening to AM Talk Radio year after year after year and see what happens to your brain.

        Somehow they’ve convinced themselves that the GOP is the original source and the protector of these things.

        Americans are the most propagandized people on Earth.

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        12 days ago

        and a few are married lesbians (and these are the most rabidly pro-trump of all).

        They do know that just because it’s a Republican porn of choice, Republicans don’t actually hate lesbians, right?

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    12 days ago

    The idea of voting for a candidate with whom you disagree on things upon which you depend for your livelihood or survival is just wild to me.

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      12 days ago

      They don’t think about any of the social programs that they depend on. It’s about hurting the right people. A platform built on hate. Then they wonder why the leopards ate their face.

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      People vote based on what they think the person is like. Harris is boring and the same old. Trump tells it like it is, that’s exciting!
      Nevermind that boring is what you want for government, you want everything to just work. But no, gotta be emotional about it.

  • BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca
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    12 days ago

    I have a feeling this channel is going to get a lot of content in the next four years…

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    12 days ago

    The assumption to make here is that Trump is willing to try to do everything he’s said. This is a guy who literally tried to ban Muslims after all.

    Personally, I think that the tumult of his administration is going to get in the way of its own agenda, as evidenced by his first presidency. Half of the people on his staff will be gone before the first year is out, and Trump is going to spend more time golfing than he will actually governing. His biggest focus will be on monetizing the presidency, and he surrounds himself with incompetent sycophants.

    These and other factors make it difficult to say what he will actually achieve.

    As for the ACA, it was a conservative court that stopped him the first time, so the SCOTUS is no slam dunk. I don’t think anyone can definitively state what will happen with regards to health care in this country.

    • A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world
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      JD Vance was made his running mate cause JD Vance is down with project 2025 and will be doing the actual running of things.

      So it doesnt matter what Trump is off doing. JD Vance will be back at the office, doing the nasty work that trump will rubber stamp.

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        You can speculate on that, but history would demonstrate that you’re probably wrong. Hell, Trump tried to get his own VP assassinated last time.

        I’m sure they think they can control Trump, but as we saw from 2016 to 2020, they can’t. That’s especially true at Trump’s age and with his cognitive decline.

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          Trump also famously told his VP picks in 2016 that they would run the country, he just wanted the title and perks of the presidency.

          That was 8 years and 3 swaying Ave Marias ago, I doubt he is more motivated to do the job now.

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      Normally I would agree with you but I think Donald has lost touch with reality and we are letting a dementia patient run the country. I don’t think we could be in more dangerous territory. I mean, he isn’t even playing golf anymore.

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      Nah, somehow it’ll be Biden’s fault… google backfire effect, the more you challenge their beliefs the more they fight for them, even when proven wrong. They do not learn. They will not ever learn. They do not want to learn.

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    Just start laughing about loud and point at them with your arm fully extended. We should start shaming people in a more direct primal way again. Shame is probably the most powerful feeling (maybe second to “ahh oh my god I’m dying???” however you want to call that)

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      I could not agree more. This is the same bunch that tries to make being liberal a dirty word. They use liberal as epithet, along with things like environmentalist, community organizer, social justice (SJW), or veg*n (“soy boy”). Also: being educated, or in fact, aspiring to anything more than just being a huckster, a sportsball star, or, more recently, an “influencer”.

      About time to start shaming THEM.

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    by jan we will be so consumed by the flavour of the month culture war (trans muslim librarians are coming for your pizza gate!) that they wont even notice its happening.

    by the time they need it they’ll forget who even took it away.

    by the time they vote they’ll just think trump saved them from leftist death panels or some shit.

    edit: oh shit, the q-anon nuts are going to sprout again arn’t they… le sigh

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      trans muslim librarians are coming for your pizza

      So what type of pizza do they like? Gotta get ready for January!

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        I’m sure its that woke New York pie they’ll be coming for. True Americans support Chicago deep dish with all that extra saturated fat and sodium

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      What was said here is correct, but I wanted to add that almost all the things everyone hates about ACA was also mostly brought on by Republicans that wouldn’t vote for it unless sections of it were modified. Democrats took what they could get and figured it could be revisited later to fix that at some point. Instead, the opposite happened, and it was handicapped even more by Republicans and here we are, where most people just believe democrats forced this awful plan upon us that is making everyone pay huge amounts of money.

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      The Affordable Care Act, the US public marketplace for private insurance. Ignorantly referred to by conservatives as socialism.

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        Years back, before Republicans realized it’s good (as they eventually do with all social programs), I had an aunt say “I’m on that Obama care and it’s awful!” So we asked which plan she’s on and she just kept saying “I already told you, it’s Obamacare.”

        I think the average Republican voter does not understand that it is private insurance

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          the average Republican voter does not understand

          You can just stop there, and be correct about almost any topic.

          I had to explain tax brackets to my mother.

          She’s got a degree to teach math. And I know she actually went to college since I can remember sitting in the back of her classrooms when she couldn’t find a babysitter.

          She used to do her own taxes and my grandparents taxes.

          But, as a teenager, I had to explain why a potential $2 raise doesn’t mean she’s losing more money in taxes than the raise is giving her.

          She also doesn’t believe the welfare cliff exists, despite our family being precariously perched atop it when I was in elementary school.

          At this point I think she’s just heard the same stupid shit repeated over and over, she doesn’t even question it anymore.

      • allidoislietomyself@lemmy.world
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        Not even close to socialism or affordable. Currently paying $2400 a month on an ACA plan because my employer’s benefits don’t cover the services my disabled child requires.

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          Jfc, that’s my mortgage at least 4 times over. Any money spent on your kid is well spent, but it’s horrible that you must sacrifice that much.

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                Referring to the place you live as hell while having free healthcare and a $600 mortgage on a 3 bedroom house has demoralized every American who read your comment.

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                  Tongue in cheek, of course.

                  The free healthcare has nosedived over the last 2 decades. It’s still free, but wait times for everything are insane unless you are actively dying. People can wait years for routine procedures & treatments. A regular GP appointment is weeks, unless you snag an ‘emergency’ appointment by phoning in at 8am sharp and beating everyone else doing the same.

                  If you need an ambulance and aren’t having a cardiac episode or similar - good luck and hope someone can drive your ass to hospital. Wait times are hours at minimum. A long time to be writhing around in (non life threatening!) pain.

                  Yes it is free. Unfortunately it is underfunded and overworked.

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    Yes it will be repealed.

    An Alex Jones inspired health plan will replace it.

    The Trump government will propose the carnivore diet as healthy. Vaccines will be banned. Only Alex Jones Nutraceuticals will be prescribed by doctors. Cardio will be state mandated as an official LGTBQ activity, along with voguing, cardio voguing. Beards will be mandatory, whether you can grow one or not. The only clothing that will be allowed for men will be jeans, stupid meme shirts, motard gear, and line 9 apparel.

    The life expectancy for American males will tank to around 50, women and vaccines will be blamed.

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    Didn’t they have control of the House and Senate last time and still couldn’t get it repealed before? Do they have the votes to get rid of it this time?

    Assuming they get rid of it, assuming Trump actually steps down in 4 years, and assuming we ever have another election (big ifs, I know), could this actually help Democrats for the next few election cycles?

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      This was the one reason I wasn’t cheering for the filibuster to be repealed. The 60 vote threshold was the only thing that saved it last time. They will only be able to realistically get rid of it if they abolish the filibuster. Which would be a net win for Democrats, so they likely won’t do it.

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      Didn’t they have control of the House and Senate last time and still couldn’t get it repealed before?

      Repealing the bill would mean revoking tens to hundreds of millions from various states. A lot of the healthcare and health insurance industry (which is dominated by right-wing financial interests) sees ACA as a valuable income stream. Its hard to uproot for the same reason Social Security and Medicaire/caid are hard to uproot. There’s simply too much money running through the system and too many private interests invested in the flow.