Basically what @meekah@lemmy.world said: the idea is to be practicable. Here’s a stream of disconnected thoughts about this:

• What you pointed out is actually consistent with how a disproportionate amount of vegans are staunchly anticapitalist.
• A cut-and-dry example of someone who’s still vegan but eats animal products based on “practicable” is someone whose prescription medication contains gelatin with no other pill type; vegans aren’t going to say “lol ok too bad bozo you’re not vegan anymore”.
• The core focus of veganism has traditionally been non-human animals with the idea that a reduction of cruelty and exploitation toward humans is, at most, peripheral. This is changing in my opinion, especially when questions like “vegan Linux distro” don’t involve animals short of what the devs eat.
• Based on what you say (as someone else pointed out), a distro based solely on FLOSS would probably be regarded as “the most vegan” if that were ever measured by anyone (it never would be).
• It’s a weird analogy, but after you’re done using and purchasing products derived from animals, what’s “practicable” from there is kind of like a vegan post-game. Many vegans, for example, won’t eat palm oil because of how horribly destructive it is to wildlife.
• Growing all your own food is in that post-game area of “practicable”. It’s up to you to decide if that’s practicable for you. It’s up to you to implement that if you think it is or, if it’s not, to maybe think about how else you can reduce harm with how you buy vegetables. It’s up to you if you want to share that idea and help other people implement it themselves. It’s widely accepted that it’s not up to you to determine if it’s practicable for others.

I would say that most vegans, even if they’ve never heard it, at least approximately follow the Vegan Society’s famous definition:

Veganism is a philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude—as far as is possible and practicable—all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose; and by extension, promotes the development and use of animal-free alternatives for the benefit of animals, humans and the environment. In dietary terms it denotes the practice of dispensing with all products derived wholly or partly from animals.

Striking the parts that seem irrelevant to this specific question:

Veganism is a philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude—as far as is possible and practicable—all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for […] any […] purpose […]

Keep in mind that “animals” in that first part is widely treated as “humans and non-human animals”. So you would have to decide 1) to what extent cruelty was inflicted to create the distro, 2) to what extent people and non-human animals were exploited to create the distro, and 3) if there exist practicable alternatives that meaningfully reduce (1) and (2).

she’d actually do what she intends

She already did what she intended. Donald Trump made it into office in 2016.

I’ll allow this weird leopard ouroboros. She seems to sincerely believe in American isolationism bullshit, so I can buy the logic that she’s feeling pretty betrayed in a way she obviously should’ve expected. The only thing I’d ask in the future in keeping with Rule 3 is to use a source not owned by IBT. It’s just slop. The Associated Press has a pretty good article, for example.

• This is a “leopards ate my face” community, not a “Trump bad” community or even an “American politics” community.
• This doesn’t explain how e.g. Eric Adams got his face eaten. Absent other context, “getting your face eaten” isn’t just “not getting a job in the administration”. Even assuming it is, was Adams even looking for a job, and if so, why am I supposed to know that?
• Even if I’m supposed to be particularly informed, Lemmy is a global social media network, and even then, plenty of American readers probably couldn’t name these people.

OP, you linked to the comments instead of the top of the article. 💀

Aren’t you that smarmy, confidently incorrect asshat that recently got clowned on by like seven Germans?

I’m not agreeing with their dumb point, but just pointing out: this satellite works on radar. I’m genuinely concerned how many people seem to be commenting without reading the article.

I don’t know why you’re assuming their ‘/s’ is alluding to sarcasm around this being surveillance versus sarcasm around needing more surveillance. “We need more surveillance (we actually don’t)” seems to be indicated here, not “This is surveillance (it actually isn’t)”.

Especially when Reddit types are notoriously, chronically unable to read articles before they go spouting uninformed bullshit in the comments.

Did you read the part where this is a radar satellite designed for monitoring the climate? That is, did you read anything besides the headline before you decided: “Yeah, I think I’m able to make informed commentary about this”?

This is true, but it’s undeniably relevant to this community. By 2024, you definitely have to have known this is what Trump wanted, but even disregarding that:

Garcia was last year expelled by the World Boxing Council for using racial slurs during a livestream. He’s also come under fire for anti-LGBTQ remarks.

Absent other evidence, this clown is just mad that the leopards are eating the wrong people’s faces.

Hi, OP. Per Rule 3, would you mind changing your title to reflect the article title? Thanks.

It’s also preferred if you swap the article and image so that the image ends up in the body while people who don’t want to visit the comments can still have the article in the URL field, but that isn’t a rule.

Fucking thank you. Yes, experienced editor to add to this: that’s called the lead, and that’s exactly what it exists to do. Readers are not even close to starved for summaries:

• Every single article has one of these. It is at the very beginning – at most around 600 words for very extensive, multifaceted subjects. 250 to 400 words is generally considered an excellent window to target for a well-fleshed-out article.
• Even then, the first sentence itself is almost always a definition of the subject, making it a summary unto itself.
• And even then, the first paragraph is also its own form of summary in a multi-paragraph lead.
• And even then, the infobox to the right of 99% of articles gives easily digestible data about the subject in case you only care about raw, important facts (e.g. when a politician was in office, what a country’s flag is, what systems a game was released for, etc.)
• And even then, if you just want a specific subtopic, there’s a table of contents, and we generally try as much as possible (without harming the “linear” reading experience) to make it so that you can intuitively jump straight from the lead to a main section (level 2 header).
• Even then, if you don’t want to click on an article and just instead hover over its wikilink, we provide a summary of fewer than 40 characters so that readers get a broad idea without having to click (e.g. Shoeless Joe Jackson’s is “American baseball player (1887–1951)”).

What’s outrageous here isn’t wanting summaries; it’s that summaries already exist in so many ways, written by the human writers who write the contents of the articles. Not only that, but as a free, editable encyclopedia, these summaries can be changed at any time if editors feel like they no longer do their job somehow.

This not only bypasses the hard work real, human editors put in for free in favor of some generic slop that’s impossible to QA, but it also bypasses the spirit of Wikipedia that if you see something wrong, you should be able to fix it.

I think all of the current rules’ benefits greatly outweigh the (not extremely restrictive) burden they put on the poster:

• Rule 0 is there exclusively to protect posters.
• Rule 1 just says that /c/leopardsatemyface should be “leopards ate my face”. This community would rapidly lose any meaning without it and become a generic “Trump bad [he is]” community; there are still posts that are like “Trump did something bad” or “large cats literally mauled a person” despite it being the first actual rule.
• Rule 2 is more like Rule 1.5, saying that the onus is on you to show that you’ve met Rule 1. This one isn’t often enforced and exists so readers and I don’t have to meticulously research why this is relevant (or, for me, get appeals claiming some convoluted ad hoc chain of logic for why a post actually does fit Rule 1).
• Rule 3 is rarely enforced – only for the worst sources. There are a million other garbage dumps for the Daily Mail or no-name, fly-by-night LLM news mills.
• Rule 4 exists for equitability for visually disabled users, who can report posts so I can then ask the OP to add it to the one reported (instead of removing it) and any posts going forward.
• Rule 5 exists so that multiple posts of the same article don’t clog up the front page (this has happened, and I removed them without realizing there was no rule against it). LAMF is predisposed to it because it’s popular for crossposts. The part about “no top 100” is there to prevent users from lazily recycling what they know works (there’s almost no chance in hell they aren’t doing this if they aren’t breaking the “within 1 year” part). This is the rule most likely to blindside users, but reposts are a cancer for a community.
• Rule 6 exists solely to make it easier for people to post, because they know for sure that non-US and non-contemporary content is allowed.
• Rule 7 exists so I don’t have to duplicate basic things like bigotry, misinformation, etc.

(Didn’t downvote you btw)

OP, would you mind swapping the URL and the body of your post (i.e. putting the article in the URL and the image in the body)? It’s not violating any rules and so won’t be removed, but it’s a lot nicer to have a link to a high-quality article as the main content of the post instead of an image that’s only substantiated if the user bothers to look in the comments. (That is, a user who doesn’t want to interact with the comments and wants to use Lemmy strictly as a link aggregator should still get to read the article.)

“Play has no limits, but your credit card does. Let’s aim for that.”

Archive of original WaPo article: https://archive.ph/w0s1b

it shouldn't be that hard?

OP, what’s your background to make you think that way, and if you’re qualified enough to make that assessment, why aren’t you getting to work building the ground floor of something potentially highly lucrative?

The response to “It shouldn’t be that hard” for FOSS is invariably “PRs welcome”.

Hi, OP. This post appears to be in violation of two community rules, namely that 1) an on-topic post whose relevance isn’t immediately obvious from the source should be given an explanation with a second source, and 2) that a reliable source has to be used for the story in the post. I’m not going to remove it because these problems are easily solvable. Respectively for these two issues, I recommend something like (your choice if you find something you like better):

1. Adding to the body of your post something like this Pew Research poll showing that Cuban Americans broadly support Donald Trump. The current source does not discuss this at all, and so this post tacitly assumes the reader knows about this.
2. Changing the source URL to something like “What you need to know about Trump’s travel ban on Cuba, Haiti, and Venezuela” by the Miami Herald. The current source is some no-name endless-scroll content mill called CubaHeadlines.

Thanks for contributing! 🙂