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    Now imagine that Joe Biden’s name appeared instead, and imagine that Epstein had died in Federal lock up during his term. Fox would be on this for weeks.

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      Imagine how long Fox would be on this sworn testimony from a woman who worked for Epstein for 7 years confirming under penalty of perjury that she witnessed Convicted Sex Offender Trump raping a 13 year old girl in Epstein’s NY apartment.

      https://cdn.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/Johnson_TrumpEpstein_Lawsuit.pdf

      https://youtu.be/Jpstc9r_esA

      COMPLAINT FOR RAPE, SEXUAL MISCONDUCT, CRIMINAL SEXUAL ACTS, SEXUAL ABUSE, FORCIBLE TOUCHING, ASSAULT, BATTERY, INTENTIONAL AND RECKLESS INFLICTION OF EMOTIONAL DISTRESS, DURESS, FALSE IMPRISONMENT, AND DEFAMATION

      Plaintiff Jane Doe, proceeding under a pseudonym, brings this action against Donald J. Trump and Jeffrey E. Epstein, and alleges that…

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      The other day I was at the gym, and because of all the new pwople getting in shape for the month, I had to use one walker that was in front of a tv with faux news. It was quite funny that they were saying a lot of clinton and other people, but not about the agent orange. Not even once his name was mentioned

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      I think they’d completely lose their shit if it was Obama or Hillary. They recently got the morons on the Biden hate wagon but the racism, sexism that’s been fomenting on those two has been crazy.

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    Epstein likes to tell people that he’s a loner, a man who’s never touched alcohol or drugs, and one whose nightlife is far from energetic. And yet if you talk to Donald Trump, a different Epstein emerges. “I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy,” Trump booms from a speakerphone. “He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it — Jeffrey enjoys his social life.”

    https://nymag.com/nymetro/news/people/n_7912/

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      But I thought he didn’t like the guy?! How will I square this information?!

      “I knew him like everybody in Palm Beach knew him. I had a falling-out a long time ago, I’d say maybe 15 years,” Trump told reporters in the White House in 2019 soon after Epstein was taken into custody in New York. “I was not a fan of his, that I can tell you.”

      Trump supporters are incapable of critical thinking.

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      a man who’s never touched alcohol or drugs

      somehow this makes it more fucked up. like having this pristine attribute and clear headedness and still doing all the incredible evil and harm. mark of a true psychopath. you could maybe maybe make sense of it a tiny bit if it was like ‘oh he did lots of meth and cooked his brain’ but NO this fucking sicko was stone cold sober throughout all that shit. unreal.

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          There was a Ghislaine Maxwell documentary where they interview the managers of the island house who are either in complete denial and/or being paid for their silence (sorry for the poor source but it’s late and I can’t find another with a clip, and it is otherwise just a summary of the interview). People like her and Epstein know to surround themselves with people who are easy to manipulate, so at least some staff didn’t need alcohol…

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    He’s literally a demented rapist who smells like shit and can not stop lying.

    I’m pretty sure we’re done “discussing” trump.

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      If this weren’t a fucking banana republic he’d have swung two years ago. We’re irreversibly fucked and it took a orange con-man to finally prove it.

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        You’re gonna see a $250,000,000 judgement against him in 8 days. The various other trials will pop off between February and May, though one may have been stretched out to August.

        The punishment system moves glacially slow at these levels, especially when dealing with someone that absolutely has the means to tie shit up in appeals, if he’s given any opportunity to do so.

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      I don’t think we should be done discussin him, he is leading in the polls por president of the us is he not?

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      I’m just glad the daughter of someone who had numerous former Mossad directors at his funeral is doing fine in prison. But they tend to take care of their own.

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        I’m still blown away that more people haven’t figured out that the entire Epstein empire was an elaborate Israeli intelligence op. Can I prove it? No, but it’s by far the simplest explanation for the available facts.

        Maxwell wasn’t some minor player in the establishment of the state of Israel; to the contrary, he played a major role and was arguably critical during the post war years.

        I am not a conspiracist, but the lack of coverage does seem a little odd.

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      It works that way for basically anything of high value to a group who wants it hidden enough.

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          The incompetence of the US prison and justice system does that explaining just fine. For me to fully believe the theory, I’d need to think that our justice system is more malicious than incompetent.

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        The city denied his request to be held pre-trial in the girls wing of the Crossroads Juvenile Detention Center and he just lost it.

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        I think thats the most likely. We know most prisons are a shit show, and he preferred to take the easy way out rather than face the rest of his life in prison.

        Any surprise that a pedo is also a coward?

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            Cameras were broken for an extended period of time

            Recorded video evidence for August 9 and 10 for the SHU area where Epstein was housed was only available from one prison security camera due to a malfunction of MCC New York’s Digital Video Recorder system that occurred on July 29, 2019. While the prison’s cameras continued to provide live video feeds, recordings were made for only about half the cameras. MCC New York personnel discovered this failure on August 8, 2019, but it was not repaired until after Epstein’s death. As detailed in this report, like many other BOP facilities, MCC New York had a history of security camera problems. ~DOJ Report

            Its not like the cameras were working until he was put there, then started working afterward (despite what people may tell you). There were known, ongoing camera problems for the whole facility…

            Just shows the typical incompetence in American prisons.

      • Correction: the CIA have enough technology right now to make someone “hung himself for being a pedo” 😉😉

        To be honest with the connections he had, did you really believe he will hang himself? He just pissed out someone in charge the most probably he was thinking about making some things public, so he got eliminated that’s it. I believe he was determinated to say something and he got no price. If he had any price it will have been achieved. So the only solution was getting rid of him.

        • Haha. Oops. Hanged, even.

          Nah I think he could live with it when it was a secret with his friends when he had money, and when he secured the non prosecution agreement with the feds he probably thought he got away with it all. But then the feds ripped up the agreement, tried him, convicted him, and he went to prison. Based on the conviction, new civil suits came rolling in and I think he realized not only was he completely fucked, but he would never be wealthy again.

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            And the footage from the cameras in his cell were coincidently erased?

            I think the guards testified they were busy looking at motorcycles and vacation spots when this happened. You know, things people may look at when they suddenly came across a lot of money to spend, lol.

          • What exactly was stopping him of shipwreck including everyone else involved into the shady activities? I bet he owned enough material to get a lot of high profile bastards deep in shit too.

            He just pissed out to the wrong people and got eliminated that’s it, nothing new in the big spheres of wealthy and powerful people.

            Remember the Feds are under the CIA governance.

            That’s what happens when you hangout with the wrong people. he just got isolated well enough to get an easy and clean dead cold ass WO leaving suspects. That’s how the CIA works.

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          Yea you’re right. The real occams razor is that he probably pissed off someone with more power than him, probably through blackmail, and got himself killed.

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        It doesn’t matter whether or not he helped plan it. He was complicit in weaponizing it against the American people. Obama renewed the legislation and strengthened it. It’s all unconstitutional.

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    Kind of interesting how if Trumpers say ‘drain the swamp’ people roll their eyes and call them crazy. If you see trumps name in the swamp then ofcourse he is there because he is a blood thirsty psychopath who rapes children for sport.

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      My buddy is a right wing dude that’s big on the Epstein didn’t kill himself conspiracy. I told him that I agree, he probably got jobbed because he had dirt the man who was president at the time. No, clearly it was the Clinton’s. Fucking OK guy.

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      When Bernie Sanders said that Convicted Sex Offender Treason Trump was the “most corrupt president in history” he wasn’t lying. I have never known Bernie to lie about anything.

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      You are confused as to why people “roll their eyes” when MAGA says “drain the swamp.” They’re rolling their eyes because Trump and his party are by far the most openly corrupt and nakedly transactional politicians in US history. We’d all love to see less corruption in DC. Supporting Trump is pretty much the dictionary definition of asking for more corruption.

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        Drain the swamp was a slogan before the 1980s and popularized when trump started running in 2016. Dont get that confused. People are not saying drain the swamp in 2024. The people who are saying that now think Trump did not do an adequate job.

        Everyone can probably agree to drain the swamp. The problem is what the swamps consists of and how to do that.

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    i am absolutely OK with Epstein’s buddy list being withheld until Summer or Fall but certainly it should be public on Oct. 1st, once November’s ballots are printed.

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    The names of about 200 people linked to Epstein, who took his own life in a New York jail cell in August 2019 while awaiting trial for child sex charges, could be revealed this week after U.S. District Judge Loretta Preska ruled that they should no longer be redacted as part of a settled civil lawsuit between Ghislaine Maxwell, who was found guilty in December 2021 of helping Epstein abuse and traffic underage girls, and accuser Virginia Giuffre.

    There is no evidence that Trump visited Epstein’s notorious Little St. James island, where the late financier is alleged to have trafficked and sexually abused young women and girls.

    Giuffre said Maxwell then recruited her to give Epstein massages, and she was also forced to have sex with his friends in locations such as Little St. James and New York.

    In a statement released in 2019, which was reiterated to Newsweek, a Clinton spokesperson said he had “not spoken to Epstein in well over a decade” and “knows nothing about the terrible crimes.”

    Trump allegedly banned Epstein from his Mar-a-Lago resort after he showed interest in the teenage daughter of a club member in the early 2000s.

    I had a falling-out a long time ago, I’d say maybe 15 years," Trump told reporters in the White House in 2019 soon after Epstein was taken into custody in New York.


    The original article contains 699 words, the summary contains 227 words. Saved 68%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!

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      Trump allegedly banned Epstein from his Mar-a-Lago resort after he showed interest in the teenage daughter of a club member in the early 2000s.

      That’s rich coming from Mr walks into the dressing room during miss teen USA pagents.

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    There is speculation that former President Donald Trump could be among the high-profile names included in the unsealed court documents

    Look, we all assume Trump likes to grab the pussies of children… but these “speculation” articles need to stop. Just wait a few days until it comes out ffs. This kind of stuff just fuels the right-wing.

    Edit: yup, Wednesday and nothing happened.

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      The article has no new info. Seems like just trying to milk clicks out of the situation.

      We already know Trump has flown on Epstein’s plane and was buddy buddy with him, but supposedly never visited Epstein’s infamous island (but I wouldn’t be surprised if he participated in trafficking and sexual abuse of minors). As the article says, being on the flight list doesn’t imply innocence or guilt. And since the judge has given those on the list an opportunity to request they be redacted I’m not sure if we learn much from it.

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        It’s gonna be a pretty empty list since everyone alive is going to request to be redacted. Kind of bullshit.

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      Have you ever known trump to actually pay for anything? Of course he’s going to take the free flight. Years ago there was some reporter who sent checks for like $3.00 to a whole bunch of really rich people. Trump was one of like three people who actually cashed the check.

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      It’s irrelevant anyway. We know that he flew on Epstein’s plane. Why? Who knows? Maybe because he saved money that way?

      Doesn’t matter because again, we know for a fact that he flew on Epstein’s plane. Full stop. End of fucking story.