The measure was introduced by French conservative lawmaker Celine Imart, who argued it would prevent confusion with traditional meat products.
Since this is clearly such a non-issue (seriously, who buys a veggie burger thinking it’s actual meat?!) it’s just used for distraction from the more important issues the EU / world faces.
As a vegetarian, I support clear labeling of vegetarian products (so I don’t accidentally eat meat); I’d guess meat eaters would also support clear labeling, so they don’t accidentally eat veggie products.
That said, I would argue that references to sausage, hamburger, hot dog, chili, etc, refer more to the form of the product (shape, whether it’s in a wrapping, etc) than the actual specific contents. Just make a rule saying that plant-based “meat” have to be costly labeled as “plant-based” in type 1/3 the size of the form, and move on from this (non)issue.
The meat manufacturers are only getting their panties tied up because meat is becoming less popular and they want every edge they can get to try to hang on to their market.
Mostly because forcing them to change the wording means that their competitors have to go through the hoops of changing their packaging and potentially losing money on destroying packaging that has already been made (depending on how much of a heads up they get). It’s too just be a nuisance and to slow them down and potentially have less in stores for a little while so the traditional meat manufacturers can try and take back more space on the shelves.
100%. If the do anything, it’s because of money.
Maybe they should ban using the word “apple” for things made of metal and plastic.
Yawn. What a waste of time.
That was whole point of it from the very beginning. Dairy and meat producing lobbyist rejoice at the idea of the EU getting bogged down over regulating their competition. I think it’s working out better than they have even dreamed it would.
I feel like switching to a 100% non-animal diet just out of protest.
A chemistry degree is required to understand the additives in the ingredient list, but ‘PLANT-BASED sausages/burgers/whatever’ are confusing. Whoever can’t figure that out shouldn’t be allowed to shop without supervision, in my opinion.
I feel like switching to a 100% non-animal diet just out of protest.
Doooooo iiiiiiit, join us! 💚
Don’t know about the place you’re living but in Germany the ingredient lists of most vegan convenience products don’t need much research to understand. Some examples:
1 cup (227 g)
Protein 60 g, Calories 553 kcal
- 54% seitan
- 26% wheat protein texturate
- sunflower oil
- onions
- soysauce
- yeast extract
- spices
- rocksalt
- riceflour
- carob bean gum
This products naming seems already proactively adjusted to the EU policy as it once was called “Schnitzel Cordon Bleu”
1 cup (227 g)
Calories 526 kcal, Protein 20 g
- Drinking water
- canola oil
- wheat flour
- soy protein
- wheat gluten
- starch
- oat straw fibers
- iodized table salt [table salt, potassium iodate (in very small amounts in iodized salt, it is considered safe and beneficial)]
- thickener: methylcellulose (natural fiber from plants), corn flour, natural flavoring, wheat starch, spirit vinegar, spices, sugar, herbs, potato protein, psyllium husks, tomato powder, yeast, table salt
- coloring foods: concentrates of radish, carrot
1 cup (227 g)
Calories 413 kcal, Protein 38 g
- water
- soyprotein
- canola oil
- rice- and beanflour
- beetroot concentrate
- yeast extract
- cultures (?!)
- cane sugar
- salt
- vitamin B12
1 cup (227 g)
Calories 560 kcal, Protein 65 g
- seitan 64%
- bell pepper
- coconut fat
- onions
- yeast extract
- spices
- rocksalt
- carob bean gum
- beech wood smoke
Some vegan alternatives like cheese might be flavoured, to make them taste a little more like the destructive product they try to replace. I don’t lose sleep over it, it’s a little cheating but not unhealthy. We should eat whole food plant based as much as possible as it’s healthy, cheap and fun. A vegan sausage is still WAY less harmful then it’s animal based alternative.
Yeah I mostly cook whole food but I just need those convenience meat replacements with my dinners. TVP, tofu- or seitan based burgers or sausages, chickpea-, lentil- and buckwheat-noodles and protein powders make it so much easier to get loads of protein than just lentils, peas and rice and keep me way more satiated. Oh sorry I called them burgers and sausages. I didn’t want to confuse the reader. I meant plant based protein sticks and circular shaped pellets ofc.
I don’t eat plant based cheese also I ate quite a lot of the real deal in the past. Maybe when I’m making Pizza or plant based circular shaped pellets within some buns but that’s very seldom. I just looked up what’s in violife and it’s got an equally short ingredient list:
Water, coconut oil (23%), modified starch, starch, sea salt, cheddar flavor, olive extract, colorings (paprika extract, beta-carotene), vitamin B12.
But yeah apart from the ominous cheddar flavor it seems very basic, too. Coconut oil should be consumed sparsely because it is “92% saturated fat and therefore raises cholesterol levels similar to animal fats (butter, lard). However, it contains a unique type of medium chain saturated fat called lauric acid that research shows raises HDL or ‘good’ cholesterol levels, which may lower overall heart disease risk.”
I wasn’t talking about (just) the ingredient list in plant based meat alternatives, but rather about food ingredients in general. Seems like I said it in a slightly confusing manner.
My point is: several food items that can be purchased list ingredients that are not easy to understand nor evaluate for a layperson. This is confusing. In contrast, “plant based” labled food is not difficult to understand, imo.
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Call it what you want for cope, still not buying dead animal
I use Arch, btw.
This guy in the Linux threads: lol you folks are all nerds
It’s about factual labelling, so people know what they’re eating. Not trying to get people to behave in a certain way.
If it’s facts you want, both burgers and (especially) sausages have always been able to contain literally anything
Your statement must be true because you linked some youtube channel.
So I believe his statement to be true, because you came up with that shoddy dismissal.
A YouTube source implies no good sources exist.
So setting some standards for them might be a good thing regardless.
It’s about the meat producing industry being threatened by alternatives.
So chicken salad shouldn’t be called salad?
Great! More dead cows for me!
They breed cows (and kill wild animals) just for you. More vegetarians = fewer dead animals.
And me!
Burger and sausage are just shapes food can be in. Wtaf?
NO11!1! A sausage has to be a ground animal stuffed into it’s own intestine!
Just like God intended!!1!
I don’t understand how people could get confused?
Veggies/Vegans don’t often accidentally buy meat because they’re confused by the packaging
Does it just boil down to most being thick as (veggie) mince?
People aren’t confused. It’s the meat industry who feel threatened by plant based products as they rise in popularity, and the meat industry has a lot of power and influence. This is their sad move to fight against plant based alternatives.
Veggies/Vegans don’t often accidentally buy meat because they’re confused by the packaging
If the packaging were labeled “vegan”, quite a number of them would. And happily pay three times as much for it as regular customers.
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I’m happy that EU doesn’t have any serious problems to worry about, than name of burgers.
Such a stupid thing to regulate.
vegetable burger shaped non-burger made out of vegetable and vegetable sausage shaped non-sausage made out of vegetable
Just call them regrub and egasuas, now with 0% horse meat or other sleazy mystery meats (true)
I kind of hope this passes. Not because this is needed in anyway way, just for the outrage memes and content.
What outrage memes are you hoping for? About what? This is just plane dumb not madening dumb
Just come back to this comment section in a couple of hours (or check one of the older posts about this story). It’s good entertainment!
Also, planes aren’t dumb.
edit: See? It’s glorious!
Bet you were also hoping for a Trump win in 2016 FoR ThE LuLz
You’d have lost that bet.
I don’t believe you. All the outrage memes since then must have been hilarious to you.
These are exactly the comments I was waiting for. Comparing a mad man with fascist tendencies in charge of the world’s powerful military to … some companies having to reprint their labels. Surely if you support one, you must support the other, they are totally comparable!
Believe what you want, but if that is the logical connection you’re basing this on … you’re dumber than this proposed law.
