• Dorkyd68@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Just do what I do.

    Step one be bicurious

    Step two enable “everyone” as love interests on your dating apps

    Step 3 match with cops, servicemen and tons of Latin men ( Latin men like me idk why)

    Step 4 get my hole wrecked by said matches due to bi curious

    Step 5… profit??? Idk i can’t really move cuz wrecked hole

  • madcaesar@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Conservative forums are talking about rounding up immigrants, letting women die in clinics and stripping people of their rights and dismantling Democracy.

    Here on the “left” lemmy, we’re arguing whether calling out hypocrites is a step too far we’ve got to be respectful after all!

    This is why the left sucks as organising and actually voting for change in unison. A simple thing as outing assholes starts a 10h discussion, meanwhile on the right they are building cages…

    Oh I’m sorry, not cages, enclosures without exists, we don’t want to offend people identifying as cages!

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      This is why the left sucks as organising and actually voting for change in unison. A simple thing as outing assholes starts a 10h discussion, meanwhile on the right they are building cages…

      “The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts and the stupid ones are full of confidence.”

      — Charles Bukowski

      Oh I’m sorry, not cages, enclosures without exists, we don’t want to offend people identifying as cages!

      This made me think of this 20s clip from Thor: Ragnarok.

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      “If a society extends tolerance to those who are intolerant, it risks enabling the eventual dominance of intolerance, thereby undermining the very principle of tolerance”

      So yeah, call these intolerant hypocritical assholes out!

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        That’s the paradox of intolerance though.

        If you don’t tolerate intolerance, you are intolerant.

        Only a Sith deals in absolutes.

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          The paradox of tolerance is poorly named. Tolerance is part of the social contract and one that breaks the contract is no longer protected by it. The intolerant are excusing themselves from the contract and the rest of us can and should exclude them from the society they harmed.

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      I’m not gay, but the idea of outing ANYONE in the LGBTQIA+ community has long been a cardinal sin, enough so that it destroys careers and forces them to be almost globally shunned. I would imagine that for many there is a deep-set conflict between outing someone that has wronged them, and not outing someone that would likely want to be accepted elsewhere where they don’t need to pretend to be something they aren’t.

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        The problem with outing someone is that it risks subjecting them to discrimination and bigotry by homophobic assholes. Shunning it as a cardinal sin is a defense mechanism to protect each other.

        If right-wing bigots hide behind those protections, while being part of the problem that necessitates them in the first place, they deserve no protections.

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    If a closeted person is passing laws, making policy, or using their platform to the LGBTQIA+ community, then outing is self-defense.

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    If outing conservatives for their projection materially changes anything, it will be a first. That said, I fully support this endeavor.

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    Careful now. Outing people against their will is how you get Peter Thiel.

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    i’ve never been comfortable with the usage of the term “outing gay men” in this specific fairly negative context.

    their fallacy isn’t being gay – that by itself is nothing wrong and should never be associated with a public shaming exercise.

    no, the problem in this scenario is their hypocrisy in denigrating other gay men for their activities while indulging in those activities themselves.

    this whole series of events should be called “exposing the hypocrisy of loud-mouths” instead of “outing gay men”.

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      It’s not outing gay men, it’s outing gay conservatives, which already has the loud mouth hypocrite angle covered.

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    People are turning on each other. Like those saying Latinos should out each other to be deported. Nothing but more examples of how divisive the Trump regime is. I suppose I don’t have to look up how this kind of thing has happened before in times of fascism. I’ll bet it’s gotta be true.

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    I don’t think that outing people is a good idea though. It’s fine to point out that they’re being hypocritical, or refuse them for their views, but outing them seems a step too far, especially if it’s retaliatory.

    Their being in the closet oughtn’t be conditional.

    The inverse wouldn’t be acceptable, why would this?

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      The reverse in this situation would be a closeted queer person outing someone for being…NOT shitty and detrimental to other people?

      Nah, don’t out people who aren’t shitty. But if you’re an active republican, ESPECIALLY if you’re a political configure, and you trash the gay community you belong to? Fuck em. They aren’t under the umbrella of protection the moment they try to push people out from under it.

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    One of us has a wrong definition of the word straight. Gay to for that matter

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    The scariest part of this movement for me is being targeted because somebody thought I was conservative. *shudder*

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      I’ve been getting this for the last few years because I look conservative. Sigh. Seems like it will soon get worse.

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        I’m 6’3, 300 pounds, built like a linebacker. Shaved head. There aren’t a lot of clothes that look good on me and actually fit (finding a shirt long enough is hell). I tend to wear jeans and wife beater with an unbuttoned collared shirt in the summer, and flannel in the winter. I also tend to wear the shoes the podiatrist gives me (for now. So long medical insurance after 2025).

        I have 100 percent been confused for a skin head on numerous occasions. If I’m leaving Walmart after dark, women will rush to their cars if I have to pass close by. I don’t blame them. It sucks, but I’m glad they’re acting on their safety over my feelings. But it does still hurt my feelings. :/

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            I would also suggest Duluth trading. It’s been my go to for a long time. Similar in quality to Carhartt but has more material options. Their dry on the fly line of stuff is 90% of what I wear.

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                Yea I have the dry on the fly pants and shorts. I know the undies are supposed to be good but I’m 100% on exofficio.

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        My father sometimes complains that he cant wear his red fishing hat anymore, because unless you pay close attention to the different design on the front, it looks like a maga hat.

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          The red hats that say “made you look” make me laugh, but I haven’t wanted to buy one because they look a little too convincing 😔

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    I hate trumpers and all, but this is gonna lead to suicides and is essentially just outing gay people to cause them harm, even bodily harm. I was raised to think that was wrong, but I guess if it’s done by you it’s ok?

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      Ah yes, but republican gay people. So only gay people who support things like Project 2025, which basically wants to eradicate the entire concept of homosexuality.

      As far as I understood it at least

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        The Post said “conservative” which is a bit broad. There are lots of conservative straight men and women who aren’t homophobic or against LGBTQ people. Republican is less broad. Far right now specific and so on.

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          Well, I agree it is broad, yeah.

          But, like… we’ll see if there’s gonna be any republicans trying to distance themselves from Trump. There were lots who endorsed Harris and who refused to endorse Trump, but not endorsing Trump just isn’t enough with this level of threat to democracy, imo.

          “If you are neutral in situations of injustice, you have chosen the side of the oppressor. If an elephant has its foot on the tail of a mouse, and you say that you are neutral, the mouse will not appreciate your neutrality.” ― Desmond Tutu