Netanyahu reportedly met this month with three foreign policy envoys working with former president and current presidential candidate Donald Trump — who could yet win the election despite being convicted Thursday on 34 felony counts of falsifying business records in his New York state hush money case.

Netanyahu, who benefited immensely from Trump’s first term, is arguably hoping for a similar dividend in the event of a second. In the interim, he has openly rejected the Biden administration’s hopes for the Palestinian Authority to take the lead in the postwar administration of Gaza, and he and his allies have shown no interest in even engaging in the White House on reviving pathways for a Palestinian state. And contrary to the Biden administration’s wishes, Netanyahu may soon act on a Republican invitation to address a joint session of Congress.


It’s not just Netanyahu who is waiting for Trump. The evidence is more clear that Russian President Vladimir Putin is holding out for a Trump victory, which would probably help the Kremlin consolidate its illegal conquests of Ukrainian territory. My colleagues reported last month that Trump and his inner circle have outlined the terms of a potential settlement between Moscow and Kyiv that they would attempt to usher in if in power. “Trump’s proposal consists of pushing Ukraine to cede Crimea and the Donbas border region to Russia, according to people who discussed it with Trump or his advisers and spoke on the condition of anonymity because those conversations were confidential,” they reported.

Such a move would fracture the transatlantic coalition built up in support of Ukraine’s resistance to Russian invasion. It would cement the Republican turn away from Europe’s security at a time when Western resolve around Ukraine is flagging. And it would be yet another sign of Trump’s conspicuous affection the strongman in the Kremlin.

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    Weird. Mention putin and all his employees show up in the comments

    Hint; They cosplay as leftists

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    I fear that both situations will get uglier after the US election, regardless of who wins. If Trump wins, Biden will try to force things to a definitive conclusion before he leaves office, and if Biden wins, Putin and Netanyahu will give up on trying not to provoke the US in hope of working with Trump again.

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      If Trump wins, Biden will try to force things to a definitive conclusion before he leaves office

      He’ll only have two months. What do you suppose he could do in two months that can resolve this conflict which has taken years?

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    Bibi would for sure be elated for Trump presidency 2 because he’d get not only zero pushback but probably a sharp escalation in military aid, but I don’t think he’s waiting for shit. Vladi probably needs Trump to destroy NATO from within and then start pushing further into Eastern Europe.

    That’s not necessarily true for Bibi, and to be clear I’m not doing a ‘genocide joe’ thing, but if something wild happens like Trump stroking out before the election I think he’ll actually try to finish his war crimes before the election is over.

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      I think he will just keep going no matter who is in charge. Exterminating a population of millions is hard and takes unrelenting effort. People are resourceful and go to great lengths not to die.

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    Can’t the administration deny Netanyahu a visa/entry?

    Like, yes there will be political cost to this, but letting him grandstand propaganda in the house is also going to cost politically. Which would be worse? Especially when there’s an ICJ arrest warrant potentially dropping soon - “we want to avoid a potential international incident regarding the Israeli PM” plays better imo than headlines like “King Bibi lauded by Congress, garnering more US support and friendship” whilst the MAGAs get/give handshake photo opportunities

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    The bombardment triggered a blaze that swept through parts of a makeshift tent camp in the environs of Rafah, the territory’s southernmost city, killing at least 45 Palestinians and injuring hundreds more.

    Images of charred bodies and screaming children proliferated in the aftermath, adding to the already considerable pressure on President Biden to change course in its staunch support for Israel’s campaign.

    Tzachi Hanegbi, national security adviser to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, told local radio this week that his government expected to wage its operations in Gaza for “at least another seven months.” He said the extended mission would be “to fortify our achievement and what we define as the destruction of the governmental and military capabilities” of Hamas and other Palestinian militant groups in the territory.

    Netanyahu reportedly met this month with three foreign policy envoys working with former president and current presidential candidate Donald Trump — who could yet win the election despite being convicted Thursday on 34 felony counts of falsifying business records in his New York state hush money case.

    “In his eight years as the GOP’s standard-bearer, Trump has led a stark shift in the party’s prevailing orientation to become more skeptical of foreign intervention such as military aid to Ukraine,” my colleagues wrote.

    My colleagues reported this week about growing tensions between Kyiv and officials in the Biden administration, with Ukraine pushing its Western allies to loosen rules over the usage of some of their weaponry on targets on Russian soil.


    The original article contains 1,132 words, the summary contains 248 words. Saved 78%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!

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    Netanyahu pretty obviously is not being held back by Joe “give them multiple billions in genocide aid” Biden.

    Putin, yeah, probably.

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        I have Jewish friends living in Israel. They’ve been living under constant threat, being bombed for decades. If not for the missile defense, you’d see millions dead by now. But yeah, keep talking that Jews are just a bunch of crazy genocidal people, murdering innocent civilians for no reason. Totally not a propaganda.

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          I wonder why they feel threatened? Could it be because the Israeli state has been murdering and diaplacing their neighbors that they feel ethnically superior to for the last century?

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          I don’t know why this downvote as it’s pretty much correct much of their neighbors hates Israelis for just being Jewish. And the middle east is infamous for people’s lack of consideration for civilian casualties. There’s not one single middle east country worthy of support.

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            Their neighbours don’t hate them for being Jewish, they hate them for stealing their homes, routinely bombing them and other apartheid actions.

            Many Jewish people will stand up against Israel for Palestine. Jewish Voices for Labour is such one group in the UK.

            Norman Finkelstein is arguably the most educated person on the issue and also Jewish.

            People don’t hate Jews, they hate terrorists, of which many are Israeli.

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      Being against Israel in context of government is one thing, and being anti-semitic is another thing. Sure, there are people against Jewish people in of by themselves, but they shouldn’t be mixed with people that do not support the current Israel government. Almost no one rates countries by the non-government inhabitants of said country anyway, they all get rated based on their government.

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          Which is why I pointed that there are two different things. Being against Israel doesn’t have to do with being against Jewish people, that I agree. And that’s why I pointed that no one rates countries by the non-government entities. Hell, I will admit to being pro-Israelis (w/ a i) while being against Israel (the government), and likewise, I’ll say the same thing about being pro-palestianians while being against Palestine government.

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      Cannot believe the dislike for people who brag about how much they love genocide

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    Could their attempt at gaslighting be any more blatant, the claims of Biden wanting peace and Palestinian authority are BS

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        Telling us that Biden is attempting peace, while simultaneously sending weapons and money is a form of gaslighting. Telling us we are not struggling financially because the economy is doing so great, though we are experiencing the exact opposite is a form of gaslighting.

        Per your Wiki link:

        Gaslighting is a colloquialism, loosely defined as manipulating someone into questioning their own perception of reality.

        According to Merriam Webster:

        1 : psychological manipulation of a person usually over an extended period of time that causes the victim to question the validity of their own thoughts, perception of reality, or memories and typically leads to confusion, loss of confidence and self-esteem, uncertainty of one’s emotional or mental stability, and a dependency on the perpetrator Gaslighting can be a very effective tool for the abuser to control an individual. It’s done slowly so the victim writes off the event as a one off or oddity and doesn’t realize they are being controlled and manipulated. —Melissa Spino Gaslighting can happen in any relationship circumstance, including between friends and family members—not just in couple relationships. —Deena Bouknight This is a classic gaslighting technique—telling victims that others are crazy and lying, and that the gaslighter is the only source for “true” information. It makes victims question their reality … —Stephanie Sarkis

        2 : the act or practice of grossly misleading someone especially for one’s own advantage Election season can create emotions spanning from immense anxiety all the way to extreme apathy. The public arguing, divisiveness, and competition for votes, including political gaslighting, can be overwhelming and exhausting. —Vernita Perkins and Leonard A. Jason As the midterm elections approach, Americans have gotten an earful both about crime itself and how the other side is distorting the news about it for political gain. “Cherry-picking!” “Fearmongering!” “Gaslighting!” —Chris Herrmann and Fritz Umbach Intense gaslighting techniques are making it difficult for Montana’s commoners to discern what’s truth and what’s propaganda. —Steve Kelly This corporate gaslighting effectively blames children for being addicted to social media and conveniently ignores how companies have intentionally designed their products to have addictive features … —Nancy Kim

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          You not only seem to be misunderstanding gas lighting still but also the messaging around the economy and the response to the Gaza invasion.

          Fun fact: the economy can be doing great and poor people can still exist. Let that doozy sink in.

          Another neat one: the Biden administration can want peace in Israel but not be willing to destroy the relationship we have with that country, alienate a huge portion of Biden voter, or destroy the political capital he has in order to get peace.

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    Netanyahu is very happy with Biden. Biden keeps sending him bombs to drop on Palestinian kids.

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              Thinking past the next move clearly isn’t your strong point. You’re a fool if you think Trump will be better. The guy who literally hates Muslims and wanted to ban any from coming into the US. He’ll cheer on as Netanyahu wipes out and reclaims Gaza.

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                Nobody expects Trump to be better. But Biden is a mass murderer and genocide supporter, which is already as bad as it gets.