Minnesota representative has voted for majority of Biden’s legislative agenda but says it’s time for next generation of leaders
I took a cursory look through his involvement with recent bills, dude doesn’t seem terrible on paper based on just that. Apparently he has some ties to big businesses, however he seems pretty pro union. He’s also pro marijuana, and has done a good bit to try and expand Medicare coverage and general social securities for older folks.
These are just very quick assessments after going through his website, so there’s probably definitely no bias there whatsoever and is totally transparent /s. I’m not saying he’s the man, just not an awful choice to go for. Plus, he’s not ancient
Honestly, there has never been a successful primary against an incumbent AFAIK, but there could be a first when you consider how the general public views Biden’s Mental capability despite there being no evidence for concerns compared to previous Dinosaurs in Chief. That and his handling of Israel is really abhorring.
One thing we have to ask ourselves, though, is if it is worth risking a rift in the party when we have to run against a theocratic patriarchal racist police state anti-democracy plutocrat.
Successful as in getting the nomination rather than the incumbent? First one that comes to mind is Reagan getting the nomination over Ford
Reagan lost the 1976 nomination to incumbent Ford. Reagan wasn’t president until 1981.
Regardless of voting history, you don’t join the Problem Solvers without being a centrist shithead.
I wouldn’t vote for him over Biden but I don’t think having a willingness to work with the other party should make someone a “shithead.” That’s just my opinion though.
The Problem Solvers aren’t just “willing to work with the other party”, they’re happy to derail and sabotage the Democrats and then suddenly impotent whenever Republicans are doing utterly insane things. Fully a third of the Republicans on the caucus wouldn’t even vote for a bipartisan investigation of the January 6th attacks, while the Democratic members were quite happy to sabotage the BBB negotiations.
They sprang from No Labels and continue to serve the interests of those rich conservatives with performative enlightened centrism. Shitheads one and all.
You’ve certainly done your research. I can respect that. I’ll have to bone up a little.
Whether we like it or not, whoever the next president is shouldn’t be just representing their own party. They’re representing all Americans and should act as such. It’s unfortunate that a good portion of Americans are sycophantic psychopaths, but they still get representation. I’m honestly just jazzed to see someone under 60. I get that Biden’s age hasn’t shown to be an issue, but I think seeing what zelynsky has done for Ukraine has made me want a younger president
Me too. I’ve been following Cory booker’s career since I saw the Street Fight documentary (it’s on Kanopy or cheapest rental is Amazon). When Biden announced a female ruining make I was disappointed because I was really hoping he’d pick Booker. I’ll keep supporting Booker in his national aspersions because I think he’s the real deal.
I’ll have to look more into booker to form an opinion there, can’t really say I know much about him as it stands now
I remember watching this live and thinking to myself how I really hope I’ll be able to vote for him someday.
Oh neat. Another centrist trying to give Trump another term. Guess supporting incumbents is only for incumbents like Henry Cuellar and Joe Manchin.
If he succeeds in giving Trump another term, centrists will do what they do every time they lose: blame progressives and shift to the right.
As if Biden himself isn’t a centrist severely increasing the risk of another Trump term.
I’m not saying that I’m in favor of this Phillips rando, mind you, I’m saying that I’m in favor of a candidate with policy positions much more in alignment with the majority of the population than either of them, IE a progressive.
I’m just saying that centrists are against primarying incumbents only when the primary challenge comes from the incumbent’s left.
That’s absolutely true, yeah.
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Not Trump is all I need to vote that aside. One midterm race that I watched closely that didn’t get a lot of national attention was Ryan vs Vance for the Ohio Senate. Ryan ran on abortion rights, reversing job loss & wage stagnation, reducing fossil fuels & increased renewables especially solar, debt free tuition, etc. He ran on more than not trump. Democrats just didn’t bother to vote and Ohio elected Vance who only got nominated because of Trump.
Not sure where I read, but don’t less Democrats vote during midterms?
Voter participation goes down across the board in a midterm. The party out of power typically gets a bump and generally republicans are more reliable voters than Democrats. So yeah. Typically.
Typically I blame people who don’t show up to vote. Overall I think Democrats have better solutions to that problems facing America today but people don’t want to actually vote. Turn out for the last midterm was about 45%. That’s terrible.
Didn’t show up to vote or disenfranchised to vote?
Didn’t show up because those numbers changed during the presidential election. If it were disenfranchisement I think they would have remained low.
I don’t know that the Democrats have better solutions, for me it’s the simple fact that Democrats are proposing solutions at all. What are the proposed Republican solutions for the cost of healthcare, the wage gap, the climate crisis, gun violence?
I don’t even fully agree with all the solutions proposed by Democrats, but it seems to me like they’re the only game in town.
Well a Republican might answer this way:
Healthcare: let the free market determine the price. If you can’t afford it then that’s an incentive to get a better job.
Wage gap: negotiate for better pay. Or find a better job.
Climate crisis: the earth goes though patterns of hot and cold. Humans have nothing to do with it.
Gun violence: the only thing that’ll stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.
You know what? I stand corrected. You’re absolutely right.
Honestly don’t see how he’s any worse than Biden in that front. Most people only voted Biden specifically because he wasn’t Trump. A primary challenger could possibly energize dem voters into going to the polls and get some kind of policy talk going, while it remaind to be seen who thr GOP nominee will be, Trumps legal woes coule likely DOA his chances assuming the GOP can produce one healthy brain cell to champion their ticket.
But there’s a chance you’ll elect someone better than Biden. The fact that the US basically has a two-party system is already terrible enough.
But I doubt Biden will not win the Dems primary since he’s already sitting as the President.
And even if Dean Philips doesn’t win the primary, it gives him exposure in advance of the 2028 elections once whoever finishes their term.
What would someone “better than Biden” have done differently? And would this jackass realistically have done those things?
A primary (ideally with debates) will help Democrats win the general election by creating a national conversation about Democratic success during the last several years.
A primary won’t really challenge Biden’s nomination. Instead, it will create the buzz and conversation we need to energize a voting base.
We need a national spotlight on Democratic achievements and plans for the future. Primaries achieve that.
That’s a really good argument. It’ll definitely be an uphill slog running a primary against an incumbent. At least he isn’t a conspiracy theorist like RFK Jr
Good. Hopefully others follow his example so we get some actual choice.
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Personally I wouldn’t vote for Phillips in a primary and for several reasons:
I think Biden is doing a very good job. Just one example, I’m really impressed with how he quietly built European support for Ukraine. Germany and a lot of other European countries have pretty substantial energy ties with Russia and they they went against their own selfish interests when they backed Ukraine and from what I’ve seen Biden was personally instrumental in that.
Also, I don’t think Phillips can build the coalition Biden did to defeat a potential Trump campaign. Hilary couldn’t. My district voted for Trump in 2016 but for Biden in 2020 and from what I’ve been able to see, based on voter turnout maps, that’s largely a result of increased turn out especially among black folk.
Piggybacking of that last one. In my opinion Trump represents an existential threat to American democracy. The election will be on November 5, 2024. If Biden dropped dead November 4th I’d still vote for him.
He’s championing the cause of the current president’s age.
I imagine he must know he doesn’t have a chance. The only thing that makes sense to me is he wants the publicity; he wants his turn on the Sunday shows and to feel important for a little bit.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Dean Phillips, a Democratic congressman from Minnesota who is relatively unknown on the national US stage, is set to launch a long-shot campaign to primary Joe Biden in New Hampshire on Friday.
The New Hampshire secretary of state’s office confirmed Phillips is scheduled to file paperwork to get on the ballot there on Friday morning.
Phillips, who has represented western suburbs of Minneapolis since 2019 in Congress, has pointed to the US president’s age in discussing his potential primary run, saying the next generation of leaders should step up.
The congressman is the heir of the Phillips Distilling Company and co-owned Talenti gelato.
Earlier this month, Phillips stepped down from leadership roles in the caucus, saying: “It’s clear my convictions about 2024 are incongruent with the position of my colleagues and that was causing discomfort.”
Phillips’s plan to primary an incumbent president has largely been met with confusion and derision, both from his colleagues and his constituents.
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I think Biden has beaten Trump in more elections than Phillips has.
And if he makes it to my state I’ll be voting for Biden. I am interested if he has an argument other than Biden’s age
Are most state Democratic parties not even holding a primary?
Biden reordered the Democratic primary schedule to reduce the influence of Iowa and new Hampshire. I think South Carolina is supposed to be first now. New Hampshire doesn’t want to recognize this because their state Constitution (or state law I can’t remember) says they have to be the first primary. All the states should still have a primary though. Usually the incumbent runs unopposed.
Biden did that? No. That’s been in the works for years within the DNC. People haven’t wanted it held there since 1979 and there was a big push to make it first again in 2003 for the the following primary. This was voted on by committee and then full board of DNC.
There have definitely been previous attempts to change the primary schedule. Biden didn’t invent that or anything. This most recent rescheduling began with a letter from Biden. He didn’t invent the concept but Democrats are at least giving him credit for this version of the rescheduling. I personally doubt it’ll stick but I hope that it does. Iowa and new Hampshire shouldn’t have such an exaggerated influence in the primaries.
