I’ve cancelled my subscription yesterday, conveniently it was about to renew at the end of the week, so I have a few days to migrate from Proton, here’s what I’m thinking of, but I’d love to hear what other people are switching to

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    Does anyone have a suggestion to replace the email aliases feature of proton? I see mailbox.org has 25 aliases with their premium version, but I have a lot more than 25 aliases and don’t want to go back to just using my email again. I don’t use my domain for most email needs, as my domain is a bit inappropriate lol

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    Bitwarden’s gone private equity. I’d hold off on switching to them; maybe try to live with KeePass if you’re not on a family plan.

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      I switched over to vaultwarden. I am stuck on an iPhone for the time being and I don’t care for all the Keepass ios apps.

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        Completely valid. I myself am still on Bitwarden, waiting for the other shoe to drop, but my family is already entrenched in it.

        I think if I have to move them again, I might seriously consider forking keepass, adding the features I use in bitwarden.

        I do not look forward to dealing with IOS tho.

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    Have people stopped trying Mullvad VPN for some reason? Is it no longer the best privacy focused one?

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      There was some drama after one of Mullvad’s cofounders was outed for donating considerable sums of money to right wing organizations. It’s fallen out of favour as the default recommendation as a result

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          I’m not sure. Mullvad is still a good product, but what it funds is not.

          If I’m entirely honest, I mostly see VPN services as a predatory market, inflated by their own marketing campaigns about the risk of personal privacy. There are some products who are true to their word, like Mullvad, but most are looking for a quick buck from the average user who might forget they have a running subscription if they keep the cost low enough.

          Frankly, after seeing what’s happened with Proton and Mullvad, I’m not inclined to believe anyone in this market amounts to more than a paranoid libertarian at best.

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      One of the owners made a huge donation to a right-wing, anti-immigration Swedish political party, I believe. Someone feel free to correct me on the details.

      I’ve been looking at both ivpn and airvpn as potential replacements.

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    Mailbox has most of those features in the lower section. VPN is undoubtedly Mullvad. Yes their CEO is a fascist but none of them are perfect. Mullvad is as close as it gets.

    If you ever wanted to Cake Wallet is pretty much the gold standard for mobile crypto wallets.

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      Any reason not to use ivpn or airvpn? ivpn in particular seemed very privacy-focused with a pricing structure similar to mullvad when I looked at their website.

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      Mind giving a bit of a breakdown of why? I’m new to Linux and heard a lot about docker (I think its like separate boxes for an apps?) after I switched and it just seemed too much at the time so I’ve put it on the back burner (was stotally new to terminal stuff).

      I’m about to try rigging up an old laptop for self hosting and trying to learn. Was thinking of figuring out docker first before trying immich, keepass, calendar with calDAV and it’s all pretty overwhelming lol.

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        Running apps directly on Linux is like cooking in a shared kitchen where everyone shares the same spice rack. If one app needs an updated spice that breaks the recipe, your whole kitchen suffers.

        Docker is like giving every app its own private kitchen pod with all its exact ingredients pre-packaged inside. Nothing leaks out, nothing interferes with the rest of your system, and if an app breaks, you just throw the whole pod away and start fresh without touching your main computer.

        Once you get used to docker, you can stand up 20 apps in a night with standard configs and it all just works.

        Later on, if you start really homelabbing it, you can stand up 3 small computers and cluster them to keep a copy of each container you’re using up. If one of the boxes go down, they just shuffle and start the container on other nodes.

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          First, this makes more sense, thanks for the write up. Second, I really wish I knew this stuff when I went head first into fuck Microsoft mode (I have a feeling I’m gonna be resetting my main PC at some point to do it right, and really dreading that). I have an old laptop returning to me that I’m gonna throw Nix on and fuck with it.

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          Agreed on all of this. I run docker on one of my PCs and have multiple containers running. But I didn’t know you can cluster multiple PCs to run a copy of the containers and I was just wondering about a week ago if that’s possible. Would you have a resource on how to set up a 2nd PC to do this and cluster with my server?

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            You need docker swarm for that, it’s pretty easy to setup and it works as an extension to docker.

            If you selfhist eg. DNS, or another static app that you want highly available but from a single IP, you can use keepalived directly on the host and this allows you to have two machines that share a third virtual IP, and if server A fails, the IP moves automatically to Server B and you don’t even notice that the server failed, because everything failed over to the other server.

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      yeah, you know, a security company CEO saying to ignore security. Just sleep on that… what could happen?

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      Like, it’s my business email, it’s on my cards and my site and pretty much everything else related to the business. Just change all that!?

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        Your business email is a @proton.me address?

        You mentioned a website, wouldn’t you rather have an address @ your website domain?

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          Site is hosted by the accounting software I use, template based and I do no e-commerce.

          Proton Mail is free and reasonably secure/not fucking Google, and I don’t computer enough to host my own site.

          I cut lawns and maintain gardens, I just need to be reachable.

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        For the future, it might be worth buying your own domain. Besides looking cool, switching providers is as simple as changing your MX records.

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    I’m also looking into what to switch to from proton rip. atm I’m thinking tuta for email. i was wondering about maybe trying Njalla VPN? drive/docs/sheets are the main ones i’m struggling with ig

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    Proton My Recomendation
    Pass Vaultwarden/KeepassXC/ChiPass (AI-less KPCX fork)
    2FA All of the above ^ or Yubikey
    Drive Nextcloud, Cryptpad?
    Meet Element Call? XMPP Call?
    Lumo PocketPal/Hermes/LMStudio
    Wallet lmao a non-kyc probably
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      Meet -> Jitsi (Matrix also uses Jitsi as a plugin but I think they’re also working on a native Element solution too).

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    Bitwarden is pivoting towards the same enshittification path as everything else, so that’s not gonna be a good long term for a password manager. They hired a new ceo whose only noteworthy experience is prepping companies for mergers and acquisitions, and briefly removed messaging on their website about always having a free tier which they reinstated after backlash. All signs point to a sinking ship, imo.

    I don’t have the answer for what to use instead since I’m still a paid subscriber with them, but I’m looking around. Probably keepassxc but I don’t know enough to host and sync my own.

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      Bitwarden is pivoting towards the same enshittification path as everything else

      Yeah… I’ve noticed as well… also interested in a good alternative.

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      KeepassDX on android. Any keepass .kdbx file opener on every OS. .kdbx file saved on a local network shared folder on an always on raspberry pi. Access the folder on all devices, open the file with keepass app.

      No sync, no extra sync software, no dangling copies, changes are immediate, decryption happens on device not over the network. Step up to network share over sftp. Tailscale tunnel to access when away from home.

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      AFAIK the concept behind keepassxc is that it’s an encrypted .kdbx file that you sync yourself among your devices by any means you can. There are official apps for Windows/Linux/Mac, browser extensions for Firefox/Chrome/Chromium/Vivaldi, there’s integration with ssh-agent, and 3rd-party apps for Android and iOS.

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        However, Vaultwarden only implements the webvault, the client apps are still only supplied by Bitwarden, which they could make incompatible with Vaultwarden at some point.

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          the community already made a custom server that’s compatible with Bitwarden, I imagine if Bitwarden cut them off then they could make a custom client for it as well.

          in fact I believe there are community made Bitwarden apps already for Linux desktops, although I never tried them because I just use the browser extension.

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          That is what gives me pause with vaultwarden… the need for bitwarden proprietary apps.

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          Indeed, and I do not like that I have to have another repository just for the bitwarden app.

          I am not really worried though. If they completely fuck up, a fork of the app will be a matter of seconds.

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      I don’t think Keepass does syncing. I just leave the database in my Nextcloud sync folder on my desktop, and I can always pull the latest version to my phone. It’d be a bit more annoying if I routinely added new entries from my phone since Android won’t let the NC app maintain bidirectional sync, but I pretty much always do it from my desktop, so the workflow is fine for me personally. If you do it on your phone, you can upload the changed version, but I think you’d have to do it manually, so not a great flow, but if it’s a rarity, not too big a deal to me.

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      write a bash script that rsyncs your keepass database to your other devices and run it once in a while. i have seen way too many online password vaults get hacked to ever bother with them.

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    I use Aegis for 2FA, I haven’t really had any issues with it

    Libreoffice is ok enough for docs/sheets but it’s not really a cloud based service. I would say make your own setup for storage but with prices nowadays that probably isn’t happening lol