The Conservative TV host will interview figures and politicians with "alternative views to the mainstream" on the Russia 24 channel, according to reports.
The best part of that was him claiming it would fix the homelessness problem here. No free carts, no homeless people pushing their belongings around the streets.
They won’t. They fully believe that Russia is a better run country than the US. They truly believe that Russia is more free and has more rights than the US. Dictatorship is what they want.
Who? Like I looked her up… but I’ve never heard of her. She’s certainly not nearly as high profile as Tucker Carlson. Maybe a more apt comparison would be if someone like Rachel Maddow left MSNBC and went to Russia for RT.
Definitely a fringe audience, I was just commenting on the fact that audiences won’t change their minds when their “favorite” talking head moves to a “concerning” platform.
Yeah but the entire point this is newsworthy is that Carlson is a huge figurehead for conservatives with a huge audience going working for Russian state media.
This woman is a relative nobody, even in lefty spheres. Her moving to RT isn’t going to make the same political waves as the former FOX News darling that is Tucker Carlson
That is the point of the article, but not the point the person I replied to was making. They just said they hope their viewers notice this and I was just using an anecdote to say they probably won’t care.
I understand who you were replying to but you gave an example of some random vaguely left leaning conspiracy theorist with very little following in general and compared her basically unknown presence to the absolute massive media presence that is Tucker Carlson, where nearly every person in this country has probably heard about him. He’s not on the fringe, he is the mainstream.
Pointing out she’s a leftist example of what Carlson is currently doing is just a straight up false equivalence. She doesn’t have the media following Carlson does, she doesn’t have the political sway Carlson does, she didn’t have literally millions of people watch her show every day.
Dont bury the lede, say exactly what you mean. What was the point you’re trying to make? Some leftist nobody joining RT is the same thing as the biggest media face of right wing propaganda? There’s only 2 reads for that line of logic, either left-wing conspiracy theoriests have just as much political sway as the oil baron funded propaganda machine? Or Tucky McNear Swanson-heiress Carlson, face of conservative media, joining Russian state media just isn’t that big of a deal?
I literally meant to say one thing: people who want to follow someone won’t care where they go. They won’t process that information as something to be concerned about. That’s literally it. I wasn’t saying anything about the importance of the individual.
If it helps at all, I’m fairly far left and I’m not trying to defend anything. There’s no agenda here. I used her as an example because I was once one of those “conspiratorial leftists.” Everything was about the American Empire, and her going to RT if anything was an assurance that what she said wouldn’t be “altered” by US political pressure. That’s what I believe other people will think of Carlson as well.
I dont particularly care about your personal politics, it’s still disingenuous to compare a relative nobody going to RT to the biggest right wing pundit going to RT and insinuating them as the same. There wasn’t a need to bring up a random left leaning nobody with orders of magnitude less political sway and smaller following to a conversation about Carlson’s viewers figuring out he’s an asset to the Russian government.
Holy fuck.
I wonder if this is when his fans clue in. They really should.
They won’t.
His fans think Putin’s Russia is the way to be. “You get your coin back when you return the shopping cart!”
“You could go to Aldi for that experience…”
“No! Become Russia!”
The best part of that was him claiming it would fix the homelessness problem here. No free carts, no homeless people pushing their belongings around the streets.
Clearly, where are the homeless going to get something as valuable as a quarter‽‽
Which fans, the ones moving to Russia, the ones that want the US to buddy up with Russia/Putin, or the ones that basically fantasize about electing Putin as US President?
Those people are thoroughly immune to reality. Not a chance.
They won’t. They fully believe that Russia is a better run country than the US. They truly believe that Russia is more free and has more rights than the US. Dictatorship is what they want.
They are clued in. it’s exactly what they want.
They won’t. The “conspiratorial left” had their version of this with Abby Martin. She was on RT I believe.
Who? Like I looked her up… but I’ve never heard of her. She’s certainly not nearly as high profile as Tucker Carlson. Maybe a more apt comparison would be if someone like Rachel Maddow left MSNBC and went to Russia for RT.
Definitely a fringe audience, I was just commenting on the fact that audiences won’t change their minds when their “favorite” talking head moves to a “concerning” platform.
Yeah but the entire point this is newsworthy is that Carlson is a huge figurehead for conservatives with a huge audience going working for Russian state media.
This woman is a relative nobody, even in lefty spheres. Her moving to RT isn’t going to make the same political waves as the former FOX News darling that is Tucker Carlson
That is the point of the article, but not the point the person I replied to was making. They just said they hope their viewers notice this and I was just using an anecdote to say they probably won’t care.
I understand who you were replying to but you gave an example of some random vaguely left leaning conspiracy theorist with very little following in general and compared her basically unknown presence to the absolute massive media presence that is Tucker Carlson, where nearly every person in this country has probably heard about him. He’s not on the fringe, he is the mainstream.
Pointing out she’s a leftist example of what Carlson is currently doing is just a straight up false equivalence. She doesn’t have the media following Carlson does, she doesn’t have the political sway Carlson does, she didn’t have literally millions of people watch her show every day.
Dont bury the lede, say exactly what you mean. What was the point you’re trying to make? Some leftist nobody joining RT is the same thing as the biggest media face of right wing propaganda? There’s only 2 reads for that line of logic, either left-wing conspiracy theoriests have just as much political sway as the oil baron funded propaganda machine? Or Tucky McNear Swanson-heiress Carlson, face of conservative media, joining Russian state media just isn’t that big of a deal?
I think you’re reading too much into what I said.
I literally meant to say one thing: people who want to follow someone won’t care where they go. They won’t process that information as something to be concerned about. That’s literally it. I wasn’t saying anything about the importance of the individual.
If it helps at all, I’m fairly far left and I’m not trying to defend anything. There’s no agenda here. I used her as an example because I was once one of those “conspiratorial leftists.” Everything was about the American Empire, and her going to RT if anything was an assurance that what she said wouldn’t be “altered” by US political pressure. That’s what I believe other people will think of Carlson as well.
I dont particularly care about your personal politics, it’s still disingenuous to compare a relative nobody going to RT to the biggest right wing pundit going to RT and insinuating them as the same. There wasn’t a need to bring up a random left leaning nobody with orders of magnitude less political sway and smaller following to a conversation about Carlson’s viewers figuring out he’s an asset to the Russian government.