• Treczoks@lemmy.world
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    7 days ago

    Violence has no place in a democracy.

    You are talking of the violence in the post-democracy kleptocracy you live it.

  • Scotty_Trees@lemmy.world
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    7 days ago

    okay? shit sucks. but hearing about it over and over again is exhausting. this post can be posted any year and it’ll still be relevant because nothing ever fucking changes quick enough unless the powers to be allow it.

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      imho that’s a good example of how scary the “might makes right” concept can be. because those nazis would, if they could, have changed a lot to “make it right” what they did. and we’d still be a genocidal murderous capitalist nightmare.

      get to reading where available. get to the fresh air where available. bloc up.

  • FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world
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    Agreed.

    There’s a reason why you never hear about the Battle of Blair Mountain or Haymarket Square. It’s why your education focuses on MLK instead of Malcolm X, and why no school child has ever heard of Marsha P. Johnson.

    Throwing bricks helps move progress along, but no one will teach that to you because the people in power don’t want you to be thinking about kicking their asses. Hell, Luigi probably saved thousands of lives by scaring health care companies into looking past the profit motive for a few days and approving claims.

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      8 days ago

      The state is an institution of violence control.

      From our zoning laws to our concentration camps, it’s always about keeping violence in the hands of a small controlling elite.

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    Depends what you mean by preaching non-violence. If it includes conscientious objectors supporting other soldiers to quit, then I disagree. There’s plenty of that happening right now in the US, Russia, Ukraine, and elsewhere. They are the biggest threat to the state and to capitalism

  • OBJECTION!@lemmy.ml
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    8 days ago

    The Imperium of Man condemns all political violence.

    spoiler

    In the wake of the tragic assignation of a loyal advocate for the Imperium, Carolus Kirk, the High Lords of Terra have added their voices to those condemning all forms of political violence as a vile form of heresy which must be immediately purged through cleansing fire.

    Although the Inquisition has yet to release details on the assassin’s motivations, it is likely that he was under the influence of heresy, manipulated by either by xenos or the forces of Chaos. Heretical rumors that the shooter believed that Carolus himself was being manipulated by such forces are completely false. Carolus, who is survived by his wife and children, never once wavered in his loyal advocacy for the values of the Imperium, which he believed in to his core: hatred and intolerance to xenos and heretics of all kinds.

    In brighter news, a dozen xenos worlds have been put to the torch leaving no survivors, as the Adeptus Astartes continue their heroic mission to eradicate all those who would stand against the Imperium and the absolute dominance of humanity.

    Glory to the Emperor, and death to all those who celebrate political violence!

  • aesthelete@lemmy.world
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    8 days ago

    They usually qualify it with the adjective “political violence” because most think the other types are just fine.

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      ‘Political violence’ isn’t ‘political’ or ‘violence’ when the state does it, according to it.

      Despite the state literally being a politically derived monopoly on violence.

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        I mean I think most understand that it’s violence and I think that’s why they add that qualifier.

        Reminds me of the “no more regime change wars”…like more wars, yes, but just not of this specific variety that I can deny it is.

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          No I disagree.

          Look at the propoganda, look at cults it creates.

          Millions suffer from the violence of wage theft and protest?

          Some bricks end up through some windows?

          That’s the only violence that matters.

          Government funding a genocide, executing its own purge of 99% nonviolent migrants?

          Opposing this, vocally… that’s violence.

          But not what they’re doing.

          … I dunno, maybe there actually is some kind of broad sea change now, now that its so horrendously obvious, but vast majority of my life, vast majority of people fall back on ‘well, you can’t do that, because that’s not legal’.

          … While the pedophile rapist corrupt conartists write the laws.

  • BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    Protests themselves are just us saying we’re trying the peaceful option first. They hold no real power in their action except with the danger of violence.

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      They’re supposed to be, yes.

      When you show no sign of escalation while fascism creeps for 25+ years, you’re just doing parades.

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        This is my problem with the No Kings protests. Plenty will say they’re open to more radical forms of protest instead of just walking around with signs, but when you bring up escalating to violence or appearing to escalate soon by surrounding the signs with armed protestors, they chicken out and tell you they can’t do that cause they’re scared how the state will react.

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    “when choosing between imperfect or horrible, choose neither, highlight the imperfections in the better option and keep your head high”

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      I can also do annoying metaphors:

      When choosing between “genocide” and “genocide,” pick the blue one, and then pretend that everyone who picked neither is a worse person than you.

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      Oh, empty words, I can do these too! If you always do the right thing, you never have to make a choice.