• SPRUNT@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    If I owned a venue, I would “book” these things as often as possible and then cancel as late as contractually possible without penalties.

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      6 months ago

      Burry it in the contract clauses stipulating that the event can’t be used to spread hate. Then cancel as they’re spreading hate.

      “Sorry, didn’t know who you were, or I would have said something sooner. It was brought to my attention yesterday and today we found you’re a hate group.”

      And then hope your security is up to snuff.

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        That’s pretty risky… As someone who works in many venues (touring live production), I wouldn’t want to throw venue security into the line of fire like that. No venue security crew is equipped to deal with mobs with molotovs…

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          That’s easy. Have your venue in a gun-permissive state, and then have a working verbal agreement with the local Socialist Rifle Association to do replacement events/rallies when some hate group books your thing to come around and very obviously open carry.

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            Would you invite a large scale firefight at your place of work? Probably not. This is unnecessarily risky any way you look at it. I don’t make decisions that put people in danger…

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          I’d suggest Pinkertons, but they’re pretty fascist. (They’ve been on the wrong side of history for most of their history.)

          My company would drop you like a sack of rocks for the stunt.

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              Nope, I work in contract security, If you’re going to be pissing off fascists like that, I would suggest Pinkertons.

              They have a long history providing the kind of security services we don’t really talk about much. Like managing strike lockouts and strikebreaking type stuffs.

              If you were going to provoke ravening hordes of red-hatted assholes, they’re the company I’d want between me and the assholes. Even if they are, themselves, frequently on the wrong side IMO- for example all the strike breaking-

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                Oh, gotcha. That’s an interesting thought, but I would still be worried about the possibility of bullets and molotovs flying around my venue and people dying, when all of that is avoidable by just saying no to having the event in the first place.

                People are fantasizing about sticking it to the fascists (which, believe me, I’m 1000% for), but this just isn’t the way to do it, IMHO.

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    The white nationalists have been turning on the guy in the right in that photo, Jake Shields, because they found out he has mixed ethnicity and decided he isn’t white enough for them. Their movement is such a mess.

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    Speaking about the former president Donald Trump’s appearance earlier that day at the Turning Point conference, Fuentes told his AFPAC crowd, “Donald Trump, nine years ago, said, ‘I am your voice.’ I don’t know about you guys, but when he goes up there and says ‘We’re gonna throw out all the anti-Israel protesters,’ that’s not my voice.”

    As the hands raised, Fuentes alternated between an oath and “Sieg heil” salute. The would-be voice for a furious generation then shouted for attendees to repeat after him, “I solemnly swear to put America first and Israel last — every time! — because Christ is our king. Amen!”

    The Nazis hurt themselves in their confusion.