But Haley’s surge is revealing of a broader problem for Trump—one that could potentially derail the former president in the general election should he defeat her in the primary.

Women, including Republican women, still just don’t like the former president.

A recent survey of likely voters in New Hampshire distills the extent of the challenge for Trump. The poll, conducted by American Research Group, showed Trump beating Haley overall among GOP primary voters, 37 percent to 33 percent.

But among Republican women, Haley was running ahead of Trump by 6 points.

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    Centrists in 2016: we shouldn’t make Hillary Clinton the first female president. It’d make women look bad.

    Centrists in 2024: Nikki Hayley as a response to Trump’s sexism and other failures? To be our next president? Seems fine.

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        The Centrist™️ might be best personified by the old Englightened Centrist subreddit.

        Basically, it’s not someone who smokes weed on Friday, shoots at the shooting range on Saturday, goes to church on Sunday, and then volunteers at planned parenthood on Monday.

        A Centrist™️ is someone who believes truth is found at the fifty yard line. They think if Trump wants to ban all Muslims coming into the US and his opponents do not, then maybe we should just find a way to screen Muslims extra hard. They believe every single word they read in a newspaper. They voted for Romney and then Trump and can’t understand why, based on their policy and tone differences, this might appear super racist to a lot of Americans. The Centrist famously thinks pro life and pro choice are morons, we should just let women decide. The Centrist thinks Elon Musk is smart because he’s an independent and a job creator. The Centrist was a boring capitalist twenty years ago, fell asleep, didn’t realize how late stage shit got and how far fascist Republicans have become. The Centrist likes to say “but both sides” do x! (x might be “fundraise on abortions/guns”)

        Thanks for coming to my TED talk.

        Continued: a Centrist (in this context) is NOT a liberal who is skeptical of the democratic party. A Centrist is not someone who has policy ideas not espoused by either party.

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          Okay so centrist isn’t essential relabeling of a moderate liberal - then I probably agree with that.

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          Centrist (in this context) is NOT a liberal who is skeptical of the democratic party.

          I’d disagree with that. As soon as you say Biden is too old or too conservative you’re a conservative nazi hilter loving Trump supporter according to Lemmy.

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            No, you are just supporting cult45 as the only possible result other than it being ignored would be suppressing the non-MAGAt Vote out of ignorance and no one is saying anything else. But lying to play victim is one of the central pillars of cult45, so it is quite possible you are a member and just lying about that as well.

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          Nah I’m pretty sure they are coming at the centrist label from a far left perspective. I don’t know any centrist who think the republican party is reasonable right now. I know right wing moderates who like Haley but they aren’t centrists.

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    But among Republican women, Haley was running ahead of Trump by 6 points.

    Um…that’s not exactly the landslide they make it out to be. In short, a heavy percentage of Republican women hate women.

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      Because if anyone has a shot at beating Trump in the primary, it’s her. It’s still a long shot, sure, but if she got the nomination (because a certain someone got kicked off enough ballots), Biden could potentially lose his not-Trump voting bloc.

      And she’s still the same level of christofascist that would happily implement Project 2025, but she’s much better at hiding it to win over the moderate conservatives.

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        More importantly, if anyone other than Trump wins the Republican nomination, Trump will run as an independent and split the vote.

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    A long, drawn out primary fight could drain resources that would otherwise fund a general election campaign. And I don’t think it would take long to get bitter and personal, which could turn off independents, but might also cause supporters of the losing candidate to stay home or vote third party.

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    remember the porn that came out with an actor cosplaying as Nikki Haley during her first run

    not able to find a link but big news at the time and well done

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      Why would we care? Even it it was literally her, if everyone is consenting, I don’t give a fuck what she does in her free time.

      I have lots of reasons to dislike her, or any other politicians, but having a consenting sex life is not one of them.