Muslim and Arab Americans say their support was critical to Biden’s winning Michigan in 2020. Some warn they won’t back him again over his blanket support for Israel.

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      Seriously. Trump is advocating turning Gaza into a parking lot.

      And it’s not like Democrats have exactly been shy of their general support of Israel, if you’ve paid any attention at all. They just also happen to acknowledge that Palestinians are people, unlike most Republicans.

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        But you still must vote for the one likely to do you the least harm if you don’t want to get fucked. White Biden sucks he’s objectively better than Trump for Muslim Americans. Trump was talking about deporting and blocking them from entering.

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          I’m not convinced having a lost Roomba who utters racist bullshit and hands countries over to terrorist organizations is a good pick. If it’s Biden and Trump again, I am either not going to vote or go third party. I cannot in good conscience vote for either of them.

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        In the sort of two-party system they have in the US, it really is one or the another

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      Somehow he would have found a way to discriminate against all religions involved. He would have tried to make money from Israel over this situation and he would have stationed US troops in Gaza.

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        The next election will likely be a choice between Biden and Trump. So you can either vote for Biden or decide that you don’t mind Trump wins.

        And as a reminder Trump recognized Jerusalem as the Israeli capital, recognized the Golan heights as being part of Israel, had an Iranian general assassinated, and announced a peace plan which suggested the Israelis should be allowed to annex another 30% of the West Bank. In recent weeks, he’s been banging on about there being no better US ally than Israel and how if he’s elected Israel will be safer than ever.

        You can be critical of Biden, but the republicans are religiously pro-Israel. They don’t give a shit about Palestinians. Biden is the better option.

        It’s like all the idiots who make excuses for Hamas, because they’re unaware that for a long time Hamas was supported by Israel, and that by supporting terrorists they’re effectively undermining any chance of a Palestinian state.

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        Us Americans recall the Muslim ban, and the increase in hate crimes after 45 took office. There are no good answers and the protest vote only gets you the worst candidate elected. Do you prefer passive or active genocide?

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        Some americans make decisions on single issues instead of considering the full voting record and position of a candidate. Some even approve or disapprove for sillier reasons.

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        evidently some “leftists” feel very uncomfortable being told that in many respects they and the die hard MAGA crowd want exactly the same thing.

        You speak the truth. American politics has become way too tribal for anything to ever get done. People will do anything to avoid agreeing or considering the idea that they may agree with someone on the opposing team.

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        And if that gets them Trump 2024, what do the smoothbrains think will improve for either Palestinians or Muslims in America?

        Considering the guy is literally supporting deporting pro-Palestinian students, I think they’ve given it the typical amount of thought a modern theist gives anything.

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        That’s effectively a vote for whoever who hate most in the ticket. Not voting has consequences

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    Imagine being more upset with the US than Hamas in this situation.

    Everyone please ignore the bad faith actors.

    Daily reminder to please vote logically.

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    So instead of diminished aid for Palestine, you’d rather… checks notes… travel bans for all middle eastern people trying to go to the US, except for people from a handful of governments who are actively giving Trump money?

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      Don’t forget Trump’s son-in-law’s middle east foreign policy plan for Israel that Palestinian supporting groups rejected and weren’t consulted with further. Israel was to be allowed to annex existing settled positions, and no further expansion from either side. Israeli settlers haven’t adhered to this “peace plan” anyway.

      Any Americans staying home at elections, this type of foreign policy is what they tacitly support.

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      How many times have you contributed to a rebuilding of the mosque in your community?

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        Twice. Once in the town I live near here in the PNW another the town another family member lives in the Midwest.

        I give money to temples when I see antisemitic stuff in the news. And when African American churches are targeted I donate to them, too.

        I am a pagan, and I sacrifice to my gods all the time food, spice, and liquor. I throw them coins, but the gods never take those so I usually pick up the coins and go inside.

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    They obvioualy haven’t heard what Trump and the right said about Hamas then, or they wouldnt be thinking that way.

    This is a best case scenario.

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    That’s fair.

    Democrats have been running the same candidate since the Clinton era.

    We could use someone new.

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    If I have to choose between eating a shit sandwich and a shit sandwich with broken glass, I’m gonna choose the one without the broken glass every time. So many people seem to think that eating the one with broken glass, or letting someone else choose, is somehow taking a stand against shit sandwiches.

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      is somehow taking a stand against shit sandwiches.

      If enough people get angry and vote third party, it can change the outcome of an election.

      This incentivizes both parties to minimize the amount of people they anger in a close race.

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        If enough people get angry at one time they can change the outcome in a way that’s essentially random. Come on, the math is really not that hard.

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      Name a democratic Muslim country with free elections.

      E: the fact I only got one response should be proof enough. when you have societies that tend to gravitate towards dictators, strong men, or are hostage to royal families, that’s what you’re gonna get.

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    😂 lol so they want trump… Who wants to wipe out all Muslims.