• pjwestin@lemmy.world
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    Lots of great voter outreach in the comments here! Keep telling them they deserve to see the genocide of their people! If you alienate them enough, they’ll definitely vote for you next time!

    Edit: I wanted to thank everyone for all the great ideas for Muslim outreach in future elections! I can tell by the downvotes that not all of you liked what I had to say, but if I learned one thing from the Harris campaign, it’s that you can’t care what a community thinks of you, no matter how many votes it costs you!

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      I’m not sure anyone here works for the DNC. We’re not trying to get ourselves elected. People are absolutely allowed to criticize others for the intended consequences of their actions when they get exactly what’s expected. In this case, they’ve alienated themselves.

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        “It’s my way of sticking it to The Man.”

        “Sir, you are The Man.”

        “That’s right.”

        “So… aren’t you sticking it to yourself?”

        “… Maybe.”

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        Yes, that’s good! Let’s pretend it’s not our problem that they didn’t vote for the Democrats, even though we clearly cared about the outcome of the election! And if we blame them for the alienation they feel, we never have to examine what the party could have done differently! It’s brilliant!

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          Feels aren’t reals.

          Fuck those people - I hope they die “sleep soundly forever” first. 👍

          But of course they’ll probably shit out a dozen children the rest of us have to support instead.

          Yay humanity.

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            Hmm, I like the energy here, but it might be a little aggressive, even for the Democrats. Remember, the tone you want to hit with Muslim voter outreach is, “Condescending paternalism as you explain what’s best for them,” not, “death wishes mixed with xenophobic dog whistles about their welfare babies.”

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      Yes that’s right! Be nice to the idiots who vote against their own interests because hurting their feefees is why this happened in the first place!

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        Woah, infantilizing the population of a majority Muslim town for having their, “feefees,” hurt, even though they’re the ones most likely to personally know someone who is a victim of the violence in Gaza? That’s the boldest outreach strategy yet!

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          Was I not clear enough the first time? I

          If the logical conclusion that voting for, or not voting against, the obvious worse option for their situation didn’t stop them, then I don’t think calling them out on it is going to make much of a difference.

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      Put on your oxygen mask before trying to help others, that is the moral here.

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          If your rights and safety at home are curtailed as a result of your vote in a vain attempt to punish Biden’s apparent strategic powerlessness, what good was it, if on top of that you now get a ghoul over whom you have zero negative leverage?

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            Focusing only on the outcomes of the actions, while not examining the circumstances that led to the actions? Yes! That will make sure this never happens again!

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              Well, in these circumstances, your single-issue mindset helped reward bibi’s war crimes with trump’s carte blanche. Good job.

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                That’s a good point! Don’t ask if people voted for Harris. Assume they didn’t! It’s important to attack anyone who might even just empathize with these voters, otherwise that empathy might lead then to question the DNC’s decisions!

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      The reality is both parties hate everybody but the corporate managerial class and want to kill everyone for infinite growth. The idea that voting is somehow an endorsement is idiocy.

      You pick the party least enthusiastic about killing you or you’re a moron. Bernie sanders is an anomoly. The democrats never once treated trump as an existential thing - they see the next election as an opportunity to finally capture the right as voters which is their only plan.

      If the realization that democrats want us all dead upsets you, you don’t understand how this oligarchy works. They still fear being out of power because it means disfavor of the oligarchs, but they would never attempt winning an election by disregarding the oligarchs.

      So the choice isn’t which one you endorse (as only a crazy person would endorse this system) its which one is gonna fuck you up the least.

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        Ooh, I like this one! Using cynicism to mask a, “lesser of two evils,” argument, while still ignoring how emotionally devastating it would be to vote for someone who is materially supporting the slaughter of your people? This one could be the 2028 platform!