• Discoslugs@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    If the choices are Biden and Trump, and your single issue is Israel

    I’m not a single issue voter. But I will not support the genocide with my vote.

    I’m also burned when biden completely failed to get student loans support passed.

    well… you don’t really HAVE a choice

    Exactly that’s why I’m not participateing!

    You’re a fool to keep playing a rigged game simply because it the only one in the cabinet.

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      I’ll try to make it simple for you:

      Voting for Trump isn’t an option.

      Not voting is the same as voting for Trump.

      Republicans only win through reduced voter participation.

      If Trump is elected again, that will be the end of the United States:

      https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/aug/30/trump-interview-jail-political-opponents-glenn-beck

      https://ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs/news/2023/11/13/trump-hitler-vermin-nazi-biden

      There are larger issues at stake in the '24 election than what Israel is doing or how your student loans get paid.

      I realize you, personally, don’t care. This is directed at anyone else coming into this thread and not realizing the stakes.

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        I realize you, personally, don’t care.

        Ummmmm… Is this you:

        There are larger issues at stake in the '24 election than what Israel is doing

        I feel like care more than you do. You’re the one writing off the genocide. You going to choose the SAME guy who cut checks to Israel.

        Lmao.

        Projection much?

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          The choices are Biden and Trump, one of them will be the next President.

          BOTH of them are in the pocket of Israel, so that is not a deciding factor.

          Trump wanting to set the Constitution on fire and Biden wanting to preserve and protect it IS my deciding factor.

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            The choices are Biden and Trump, one of them will be the next President.

            This is because people like you keep voting blue every time regardless of how bad they are.

            If all the people who voted lesser would vote 3rd party the outcome might be different.

            Right now you are ensuring nothing will change.

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              No, it’s because no 3rd party is able to gain even the slightest interest among the wider electorate. They are called “fringe” candidates for a reason.

              Perot in '92 was the most successful, didn’t even hit 20% and won 0 states.

              So, again, your choices are one candidate who admits to wanting to burn everything down, and one who doesn’t.

              The choice is easy.

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      9 months ago

      But I will not support the genocide with my vote.

      By allowing Trump to win you are effectively voting for an even bigger genocide.

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        The genocide is ongoing under the biden administration!!!

        Better than trump is still fucking awful. And I don’t support it.

        Maybe if all the people here telling me too vote biden, didn’t . and instead supported better independent candidates, we really could have change.

        But your going to do the same thing we have been doing for decades, and insist I do the same.

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          The genocide is ongoing under the biden administration!!!

          Better than trump is still fucking awful. And I don’t support it.

          So you’re going to allow Trump to make it a bigger genocide?

          Maybe if all the people here telling me too vote biden, didn’t . and instead supported better independent candidates, we really could have change.

          That would be really great, but that’s a fantasy. The reality is that we are stuck with a two party system.

          But your going to do the same thing we have been doing for decades, and insist I do the same.

          I’m insisting that we prevent things from getting worse, and in the background we fix our two party system.

          Meanwhile you’re insisting an option that makes things as terrible as possible, as genocidal as possible.

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            That would be really great, but that’s a fantasy. The reality is that we are stuck with a two party system.

            You are the reason we are stuck in the two party system. You refuse to vote any other way. Lol

            Do you not see the fallacy here?

            Meanwhile you’re insisting an option that makes things as terrible as possible, as genocidal as possible.

            The genocide is happening when I voted blue jackass. Its happening now. Under the dems.

            You voted for the genocide supplier and your telling me we all need to do it again.

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              You are the reason we are stuck in the two party system. You refuse to vote any other way. Lol

              Do you not see the fallacy here?

              No, it’s an inherent, mathematical bias of the system.

              The genocide is happening when I voted blue jackass. Its happening now. Under the dems.

              You voted for the genocide supplier and your telling me we all need to do it again.

              You’re the one supporting Trump, the guy quoting Hitler.

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                No, it’s an inherent, mathematical bias of the system.

                No.

                YOU are here telling people not to vote 3rd party…because 3rd party candidates dont get enough votes.

                Do you see how that’s a logical fallacy.

                You are actively helping to create the problem…while say that the problem… is the reason you are creating the problem.

                If you and a bunch of people who think like you , started to vote differently it might not be always " lesser of two evils"

                If you voted 3rd party, 3rd party might get enough votes…

                But you are here telling everyone not to vote 3rd party.

                You’re the one supporting Trump, the guy quoting Hitler.

                As much as biden would have you believe, a vote against him is not a vote for trump. And i don’t care how many times you say it.

                we can stop, no one is going to call me a trump supporter just to coerce me into voting for their candidate. You are a Genocide apologist. And you can go fuck yourself.

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                  YOU are here telling people not to vote 3rd party…because 3rd party candidates dont get enough votes.

                  I’m saying don’t vote 3rd party because it splits the vote. That’s the inherent flaw with the current system.

                  As much as biden would have you believe, a vote against him is not a vote for trump. And i don’t care how many times you say it.

                  It may not literally be a vote for Trump, but in effect it is. The boomers who vote for Trump are the most reliably voting bloc out there. They WILL be voting for Trump next election.

                  And standing idly by makes you complicit.