• BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    Without a majority in both chambers it seems like we’re fucked. Precedent means jack shit to the majority of the SCOTUS so we basically need to codify 50+ years of decisions. Even then we need to claw back some sanity at the state level.

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      5 months ago

      Without a majority in both chambers it seems like we’re fucked

      We literally just had that…

      For two years…

      And we’re still fucked because instead of voting for someone that would accomplish stuff, we banded together around Joe Biden.

      And got “not trump” but none of what we actually want either.

      Which brings us full circle to why Biden might not get enough votes to stop trump in 2024.

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        No they didn’t.

        Manchin and Sinema made sure we couldn’t get rid of or change the fillabuster. Without 60 votes, a simple e-mail saying “Fillabuster” is enough to kill anything.

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            There is no reason to keep it. It’s a throwback to the Jim Crow era and undemocratic. That undemocratic part is why the Republicans love it so much that they changed the rules from:

            You have to stand in the rotunda speaking for hours tieing up the system till you win

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            Single email saying you are fillabstering it.

            Manchin and Sinema said if they touched the fillabuster in any way, no bill will make it out of the senate. That’s why it never got ended or at least make it harder to fillabuster things.

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              5 months ago

              Alright…

              We’re close…

              Here’s where it gets tricky, lots of people get lost.

              For the best path forward and to ensure this doesn’t happen again we should:

              1. Have a robust primary every election and replace incumbents that don’t agree with voters.

              2. Blindly support Dem incumbents until they eventually lose to a Republican

              Think about it, don’t just answer right away reflexively.

              Which path forward actually leads to progress? I don’t want to rush you, but it’s an election year. Decisions made today we’re gonna be stuck with for 4-6 years.

              So think fast, but think long term.

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      5 months ago

      Weird hiw Republicans can get what they want when they have just one chamber of Congress, but the Dems can’t do anything even when they have 2/3 between Congress and the White House. The Democrats keep hiding behind “we cant do that because it won’t pass” so things keep getting worse and worse for people, who blame the Democrats. If they started to actually campaign on things that will improve people’s lives like Medicare for all, lowering rent/housing prices, fixing college tuition, and breaking up giant corporations.

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        Its not some weird secret conspiracy by the Democratic leadership. The GOP generally has a much easier job. They get what they want by preventing anything from getting done. It’s much harder to create than destroy. Yes it’s on Democrat officials to actually follow through on their platform when they have the ability, but we can’t give them 51% in a system that requires 60% and be surprised when we don’t get sweeping legislation passed.

        That’s before you factor in how different the demographic makeup of the parties being so different. The Democratic coalition includes far left, progressives, and moderates across the political spectrum with very different ideas. Some good, some bad. Some honest civil servants, some corporate sell outs. The GOP is made up of people who simply disagree about how public they want to make their goals known, they all have the same evil vision and they will all sell out their country.