If Biden r*ped women (plural), cheated on his taxes for decades, propped up by adversaries of the US, lead an armed insurrection, dehumanize migrants, glorified fascism, killed a puppy and you still support him - then yes. You see how “support of Israel” is a tiny bit more complicated than that?
Mainstream media is manipulating us when they say support of Israel = support of their atrocities. It is a complex issue and the US can support the people of Israel while pressuring the regime to stop the atrocities. Orange man emboldened Israeli regime by giving them everything they wanted and, as usual, democrat president is left to clean up the mess and get blamed for.
I understand that it’s complex. Support for a candidate is always complex. That’s my point. This “OMG, she killed a dog and they will still vote for her? They have no morals!” is just silly, partisan black and white thinking. As you seem to recognize when it comes to supporting Biden, it’s much more complicated than that.
It’s a complicated issue to be sure, but it isn’t media manipulation to say that supporting Israel is the same as supporting their atrocities. That’s literally what supporting Israel is at this point. That’s like saying you can support Nazi Germany while not supporting the Holocaust
Orange man emboldened Israeli regime by giving them everything they wanted and, as usual, democrat president is left to clean up the mess and get blamed for.
Clean up the mess by continuing the same policies with the only change being the addition of some finger wagging and the threat of wrist slapping?
Giving Israel everything it wants while telling the rest of the world we’ll pressure the regime to change has been US policy for decades. The problem didn’t start with “Orange Man”
( side question: are you afraid that if you say “Trump” he’ll show up and grab you inappropriately?)
While that is true it’s not the point. If both candidates are going to send weapons and one of the two will be elected then you have to make a decision that has more levels of evaluation than the one. As much as I absolutely despise voting for someone who is aiding in the genocide taking place, there isn’t a choice because both candidates will support it. The US is democratic republic but it’s a republic none the less, we don’t get to vote on individual laws only the people who make them are voted on. If all of the candidates support something then the people are essentially powerless to stop it.
By that definition, several Warsaw Pact states were also democratic, since you could vote for anyone the ruling parties nominated, and frequently the local Communist party only had a 60-70% majority in the relevant assembly.
Now I’m not saying the US is a dictatorship, but there are definitely a lot of anti-democratic qualities to it, and the decision to support Israel is not a democratic decision made by the US Government.
I condemn bidens support of Israel, but will still vote for him because that’s a no brainer. Do I have no morals or is it more complicated than that?
If Biden r*ped women (plural), cheated on his taxes for decades, propped up by adversaries of the US, lead an armed insurrection, dehumanize migrants, glorified fascism, killed a puppy and you still support him - then yes. You see how “support of Israel” is a tiny bit more complicated than that?
Mainstream media is manipulating us when they say support of Israel = support of their atrocities. It is a complex issue and the US can support the people of Israel while pressuring the regime to stop the atrocities. Orange man emboldened Israeli regime by giving them everything they wanted and, as usual, democrat president is left to clean up the mess and get blamed for.
I understand that it’s complex. Support for a candidate is always complex. That’s my point. This “OMG, she killed a dog and they will still vote for her? They have no morals!” is just silly, partisan black and white thinking. As you seem to recognize when it comes to supporting Biden, it’s much more complicated than that.
It’s a complicated issue to be sure, but it isn’t media manipulation to say that supporting Israel is the same as supporting their atrocities. That’s literally what supporting Israel is at this point. That’s like saying you can support Nazi Germany while not supporting the Holocaust
Clean up the mess by continuing the same policies with the only change being the addition of some finger wagging and the threat of wrist slapping?
Giving Israel everything it wants while telling the rest of the world we’ll pressure the regime to change has been US policy for decades. The problem didn’t start with “Orange Man”
( side question: are you afraid that if you say “Trump” he’ll show up and grab you inappropriately?)
Until they stop sending weapons they are supporting the atrocities.
While that is true it’s not the point. If both candidates are going to send weapons and one of the two will be elected then you have to make a decision that has more levels of evaluation than the one. As much as I absolutely despise voting for someone who is aiding in the genocide taking place, there isn’t a choice because both candidates will support it. The US is democratic republic but it’s a republic none the less, we don’t get to vote on individual laws only the people who make them are voted on. If all of the candidates support something then the people are essentially powerless to stop it.
By that definition, several Warsaw Pact states were also democratic, since you could vote for anyone the ruling parties nominated, and frequently the local Communist party only had a 60-70% majority in the relevant assembly.
Now I’m not saying the US is a dictatorship, but there are definitely a lot of anti-democratic qualities to it, and the decision to support Israel is not a democratic decision made by the US Government.