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  • The Internet that you’re posting on was built on top of a military network intended to provide redundant communication in the event of a global thermonuclear war.

    Responding to this part alone: that’s not actually true.
    The intent of arpanet, the direct predecessor to the Internet, was to make it easier for universities to use high powered computer resources located at national laboratories, as well as making it easier to distribute software updates. The person who initially pushed for it’s creation wanted “an electronic commons open to all, 'the main and essential medium of informational interaction for governments, institutions, corporations, and individuals '”. They secured funding for the initial computer science labratories, os research that underpin everything, and the foundation for the “INTERgalactic NETwork”.

    Arpa was, at the time, the advanced research project agency. They were under the DoD, but they filled a role closer to the NSF today.

    In designing the system they referenced work done by people who were studying robust communication networks. At the time that meant the phone system and nuclear weapons. The research, however, was applicable to any unstable network, and so had particular interest to them because computers had terrible reliability and they wanted to not have to call people if they discovered they had turned off a computer halfway between New York and LA.

    The closest thing it has to a cold war military objective is to help us win the research race and spite the Soviets. It can withstand a nuclear attack, but that’s just because that’s the easiest way to make it survive a farmer with a backhoe accidentally hitting a wire.


  • The thing is they’re currently trying to sell as a business oriented tool. They’re not going to make money off of individuals.
    Google is positioned to come closest because they’re already an advertising company.

    If you think their focus isn’t businesses then you’re not paying attention to their strategy. The pressure to drive profitability is increasing as their business customers are reporting that investment in AI capabilities isn’t converting into measurable financial returns. That’s the type of news that makes investors wary.

    If you operate at a loss, you need to be providing a value to your customers that you can leverage. You need more than high interest, you also need demonstrable utility.

    There have also been plenty of times that a new technology just … Didn’t pan out. This specifically happens with AI technology, and we even have a term for it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AI_winter The tech won’t go away, it’ll just be market infeasible for a while until it’s no longer called AI and is just a feature in some other product.

    Take your comment and apply it to someone marketing “spell check as a service”.


  • This is capitalism working exactly as intended. People with capital are using it to guide businesses to make them more money.

    The mistake is thinking that capitalism is motivated by a healthy economy, when the theory is that if everyone is aggressively selfish then the economy will naturally become healthy and efficient.

    The people making money are counting on making their money as investors keep pumping more in. The investors are all aiming to be the last one to sell before the crash. Russian roulette venture capitalism. (In some cases they think the economy will tolerate 1-2 companies and they’re aiming to buy a controlling interest in a company worth 2% current value after the correction, and in others they just have so much money that a few billion is a minor bet - BlackRock comes to mind, with more than $10 trillion to invest)

    If you look at 2008, we had a similar-ish situation with a major portion of the economy being invested in mortgage based investments.





  • You’re literally quoting a part of a sentence to seemingly disagree with. Specifically a sentence that’s saying that you don’t need to believe it’s nefarious for it to be reasonable to want privacy and assurances of privacy.

    They seemed on the fence about if they were being paranoid or if they were justified in feeling concerned and it was as bad as it seemed.
    I’m saying it doesn’t matter what you believe their intentions are, it’s not paranoid to have concerns about the camera in your face. You can short circuit questions about the technology or their reputation and go directly to resolving that discomfort however is most suitable to you.


  • Yeah, I can see the safety benefits but I’m honestly not sure how I would feel about it. My current car has a variant but the camera is mounted on the outside, and it notices lane drift and changes in responsiveness to curves. It’s basically an extension of the collision/lane centering/automatic windshield wiper (weirdly) systems.

    I’m okay with that because it’s not looking at me, but at the road, which I expect the car to do. Even if it was verified to not be sending anything anywhere I can honestly say I’m still very unsure about just being passively on camera like that.


  • Fatigue detection is a real thing that doesn’t use the type of AI that people think of when they hear that word today most often. It’s not language based but instead it’s able to recognize faces and posture, tell where your attention is focused, and recognize signs of fatigue like head drop, eyes closing, and attention drifting from the road.
    It, along with other attention based driver safety features, are real and effective and can be done on device with a computer with less power than a modern cellphone.

    It is, however, at least a little creepy. It’s made a lot more so by it not being disclosed upfront with disclosures and full user awareness. It should be explained by both the website, the car manual, the salesperson and the car itself exactly what it’s doing and where any video data is being sent. It’s probably processing the video locally and at most sending telemetry about which driver just sat down and such, but 1) you might not want that 2) unless they actually tell you that you don’t know.

    It’s not paranoia to want an explanation and appropriate assurances, or for it to be in your control. You don’t need to assume it’s the worst case for that to be true. It’s probably a real safety feature with a couple of quality of life features taped on so people can see it do something, since you don’t really see a passive safety feature. But without actual communication you don’t actually know that.


  • Oh, I never thought you were saying I did or didn’t have to like someone or something. And I would never advocate for hurting or mistreating any animal no matter how much of a bastard it is.

    I think the disconnect might be exactly how “severe” the label is. There are humans who became cops because they legitimately thought they could do good, who never did anything unjust and never were in a position of ignoring wrong doing or anything like that.
    The closest thing to a moral failing being a lack of awareness of systemic justice and so on and so forth.
    They’re still a bastard because they’re contributing to the entire thing, regardless of their lack of involvement in the specific negatives.

    I don’t think the dog needs punishment, just that it shouldn’t be a police dog.

    I’d easily agree that a dog doesn’t have the same moral autonomy that a human does. I just don’t think you need that to be called a bastard. Geese are often bastards. You don’t hold it against the goose, but you don’t forget that if given the choice that goose will nip you.

    Utterly aside from the specifics: there’s some research that indicates that canines do actually have capacity for a sense of morality and justice but it’s limited to equal treatment so far as we can see. Not the more abstract “right or wrong action”.


  • They can be victims and be bastards.
    A police dog, put in a position to hurt you, will.
    A police horse out in a position to hurt you will try not to.

    Drug dogs were probably the worst example I could have chosen. A better example would have been a dog used to attack people. They may have been trained and treated with various degrees of mistreatment to do so quite so enthusiastically, but they know they’re hurting you.
    The police horse uses what agency it has to try not to hurt you.

    If someone forces you to drive a car through a crowd, you’re still morally culpable if you try to hit people. If you do your best to avoid hurting anyone within the confines of what you were forced to do you’re pretty much in the clear.

    Considering the stakes of bastarddom are pretty low, I’m willing to judge an animal based on what it would do with its limited autonomy.


  • Police dogs are trained to rat you out, either legitimately or illegitimately.
    Them being victims who weren’t given a choice doesn’t make them not active participants, just sympathetic ones.
    Like modern pirates. They’re doing it because they need to feed their families and often have no real choice, but that doesn’t make it okay to hurt random fisherman and freighter crews.

    Police horses will do their best to not step on you when forced to ride into a crowd. Not bastard.



  • It’s that, plus other factors. The regulations are more lenient, it’s easier to get a more efficient engine in with more mass to work with, it’s easier to pass safety ranking checks, and it’s easier to put comfort features in that consumers want.
    Putting a large crumple zone on a compact isn’t as easy as putting one on a giant truck.
    (Note this isn’t saying big cars are more or proportionally more efficient , but that the efficiency advances they’ve made over the years are easier to implement in a large engine)




  • Refrigerators tend to be surprisingly efficient. The cold substance inside them helps keep them cool, we’ve learned a lot of little tricks to help people keep the doors closed (before ice makers people basically left the freezer open while scooping ice into stuff), and we’ve just gotten better at design and insulation.

    Paradoxically, they can sometimes work less efficiently in the cold. Not because of how refrigeration works, but because of how motors work. The oil in the compressor can get thicker, and the motor has to push harder to work.
    That’s why some advertise as “garage ready”. An efficient compressor running gently for longer can use less energy than an inefficient one running for a short time, and being too cold can give you an inefficient compressor that runs for too long.

    Then the compressor locks up, stops cooling entirely while churning power grinding at nothing while your food coasts up to the ambient temperature of the environment and a dead overheating compressor.


  • Whoah, I never said I wasn’t interested in the exchange, only that I wasn’t interested in the topic.
    As someone who’s extremely insistent that it’s grossly improper to make any form of inferences beyond what is literally stated, I’m shocked you would make such a leap!

    I think you’re persistently confusing me with someone else. I perfectly understand your point, and have never had any doubt about what you intended to say. I never even disagreed with you on the topic.
    I clarified someone else’s point to you, and you started explaining to me how they made unreasonable assumptions, which is what I disappeared with.

    Intellectual property laws apply to open and closed source software and developers equally. When you make a statement about legal culpability for an action by one group, it makes sense to assume that statement applies to the other because in the eyes of the law and most people people in context there’s no distinction between them.

    No one is unclear that you were only referring to one group anymore. That’s abundantly clear.

    My point is that you’re being overly defensive about someone else making a normal assumption about the logic behind your argument. And you’re directing that defensiveness at someone who never even made that assumption.