Back in 2020 he was a supposed frontrunner struggling to look like one, fresh off a sluggish performance in the 2020 Iowa caucuses. He asked New Hampshire voters to help him flip the narrative and deliver him a comeback. He snarked back at critics, belittled a younger challenger and called one woman “a lying, dog-faced pony soldier” at a campaign event.

Then he skipped his own campaign party, headed to South Carolina, and finished a distant fifth in New Hampshire’s primary, faring worse than the former mayor of a midsized Midwestern city.

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    It will not have an effect on turnout in the general election. It might have depressed turnout in the New Hampshire primary.

    you were warned. you chose instead to attack the person warning you rather than doing something about. just remember that when Biden looses to the orange turd because he’s literally the only candidate that can.

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      Lol wut? Are you threatening to not vote because the DNC took away your meaningless delegates in a statistically uncontested race? Do you really believe that anyone anywhere else in the country gives a shit about New Hampshire getting to go first?

      Look, I agree with you that Biden sucks as a candidate. He definitely could lose to Trump, and that would be bad. But there isn’t a better alternative in the primary. Short of Biden dying or becoming incapacitated, he’s the only viable candidate to compete with Trump. I wish that weren’t true. I wish there was a legitimate progressive contender, even a dark horse I could believe in, but there just isn’t any.

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        No.

        I’m saying Biden is deeply unpopular and people in general aren’t going to be arsed to vote for a guy they don’t like.

        You want to win elections, you need more than “the other guy is worse”. That’s a not a reason to vote for a person, that’s a reason to not vote for the other person.

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          Sure, but the other person is Trump. And I agree with you, I’d prefer a candidate I was voting for, and not just the guy that’s going to stand in the way of total annihilation.

          If you want to win elections, you need motivated voters. Angry and scared people are highly motivated. It’s why Conservatives demonize scapegoats like immigrants and the LGBTQ+ community. “Vote, or the woke will get you!”

          I would bet that any reasonable person could beat Trump in the general election by the sole virtue that they aren’t Trump. There are enough people that are afraid of another Trump Presidency that they are motivated to vote.

          There are also an alarming number of bigots and morons who will vote for Trump no matter what he does. These are bad people, incapable of rational thought and seeking power to benefit themselves and control others.

          They exist, but they are not a majority.

          It would be nice if we had more than that to vote for, but that was enough in 2020, and I believe it will be enough in 2024. At least I hope it will be enough, but I don’t see any alternatives, and you haven’t suggested any.

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            , but I don’t see any alternatives, and you haven’t suggested any.

            Actually- I have. And many others have. There’s plenty out there and this comment is a throwaway attempt (intentionally or not) to silence dissent.

            The reality is Biden is deeply unpopular.

            If defeating Trump is your motivation, then finding the best possible candidate is the first step.

            then you ratchet up the fear mongering in the regular election; as well as all the good reasons to vote for that candidate.

            The DNC is pushing Biden and doing the fear mkngering because he’s the best candidate for his constituency- and that ain’t us. He’s firmly in the control of the corporations. Which is why he expediting weapons sales to Israel, supporting Ukraine; and sitting around with his thumb up his ass on pretty much everything else- or at best spackling a veneer of “sure we care” around.

            If he really cared about democracy, Trump would be in jail, convicted and we be in this shitshow… If he cared about national security… it wouldn’t have taken 2.5+ years to get the extremely sensitive documents back (and they’re still missing that fold of the most sensitive intel on Russia).

            If they cared about corruption… there’s lots there, too. In all sorts of places.

            If he cares about the climate he’d have held to his campaign promise to not open up new fracking or expand offshore drilling (for example the willow project.)

            If he cared about abortion he would have convinced manchin and the few others to get that done.  
             
             
             
             
             
            No, he’s clearly not running for our benefit.