• theprogressivist @lemmy.world
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      Cry some more. The constitution was used to remove him. If you have problems with that, then take it up with the founding fathers. Per the 14th amendment, NO CONVICTION is required. Removing a proven insurrectionist from the ballot is DEMOCRACY.

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        Removing a proven insurrectionist from the ballot is DEMOCRACY following the rule of law in the United States. Exempting individuals from the rule of law is anti-democratic.

        All people having representation and subject to the rule of law are fundamental principles of democracy.

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          Not if you’re a fucking insurrectionist. Refer to the 14th amendment. No conviction is required. Plain and simple.

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          Removing a proven insurrectionist from the ballot is DEMOCRACY following the rule of law in the United States. Exempting individuals from the rule of law is anti-democratic. All people having representation and subject to the rule of law are fundamental principles of democracy.

          So, per your own logic, the fundamental principles of Democracy require people to have representation and are subjected to the rule of law. So, with Trump being removed from the ballot using the 14th amendment, which, in your own words he is being subjected to the rule law. Which makes his removal Democratic? No?

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            Yes, I’m being nit-picky. All I was trying to say was the original phrasing was “democracy at large says an insurrectionist cannot run for office” which is untrue. It is a US implementation of democracy specific case.

            Another country could have no restrictions on candidates and it would be completely democratic for an insurrectionist to run for office.

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      You’re literally just ignoring the people who tell you he’s been charged with a crime. You posted a similar message in another thread yesterday, and just like this one you’re just posting and leaving.

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      We all saw everything that happened. The man tried to steal an election he lost and incited an insurrection. If you don’t believe that you’re captured by propaganda.

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      the man hasn’t been charged with a crime

      He has literally been charged with dozens of crimes. Have you been living under a rock? Do you just make shit up when you need to defend your orange garbage bag person?

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      the man hasn’t been charged with a crime.

      He’s been charged with 91 felonies and been found guilty of Insurrection in two courts in Colorado. He is not an innocent little snowflake.

      https://www.politico.com/news/2023/11/17/colorado-judge-rules-trump-engaged-in-insurrection-but-can-still-run-for-president-00127909

      https://www.npr.org/2023/12/20/1220583273/trump-colorado-supreme-court-ruling

      Pretending he has not been charged is misinformation, and I’m removing this comment based on that.