• Kecessa@sh.itjust.works
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      6 months ago

      That’s the first part, used correctly it’s a non issue so just use your nonstick correctly.

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          6 months ago

          Using nonstick correctly: Don’t use metal and don’t heat it over 260 °C

        • brad_troika (he/him)@lemm.ee
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          6 months ago

          Source on the pan giving you cancer?

          Yes, non-stick becomes stick because the teflon coating comes off, it’s really hard to make teflon stick to anything. Using metal utensils will hasten this but afaik simply using heat will help loosen the teflon coating.

          I don’t mind buying a new non-stick pan about every 5 years (last one lasted 7), I usuall stick to the cheapest ones, they serve a specific service to me that stainless ones can’t do.

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              Afaik the coating is not a carcinogen only under certain circumstances like high heat can it produce something unsafe but even there it’s just potential, not yet proved to be carcinogenic but feel free to prove me wrong.

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              6 months ago

              The part you quoted says nothing about cancer, article only mentions potential risks with no evidence and no article cited. I’m sorry but articles like these are why people believe chocolate cures cancer or sitting down is as bad as smoking.

              I don’t claim there’s no connection but so far I’ve seen no evidence.

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            I bought a cheap stainless pan about 20 years ago. Don’t have issues with food sticking, don’t have to worry abouy coatings coming off, and if the handle breaks I can make a new one.

            Coating breaks down, stainless doesn’t.

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              I have a mix of stainless steel and cast iron. I’m not terribly worried about consuming small amounts of either of those.

              A bonus is that because it’s all metal I can use most of it in ovens or while cooking outdoors.

              Sticking isn’t really that much of an issue if you’re careful. I feel like non-stick would’ve never taken off if people knew how toxic it was in 1970.

      • I_Miss_Daniel@lemmy.world
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        6 months ago

        In other words don’t do what I did and put half a litre into a $6 pot on your new induction cooktop and set it to 2kW to see how long it takes to boil.

        It boils quick.

        It then boils more enthusiastically than you’ve ever seen before, and a cancerous stench fills the air as the coating breaks down and the pot deforms.

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        6 months ago

        recent studies have stated that the pans offgas from manufacturing for weeks after you’ve bought them, no heating needed, so no, that’s not correct. and it was known that they offgas at only 325ºF years ago. https://www.ewg.org/research/canaries-kitchen

        so no, teflon pans are bad no matter how you use them, they’re bad for the environment, they’re bad for your health, they’re bad for animals, they’re bad for babies that haven’t been born yet.

    • megopie@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      6 months ago

      It is the material on the pans, but the only case where the companies making the stuff were successfully sued was when they were caught for dumping intermediates of the chemical in to a tributary of Ohio river.

      It’s hard to pin down how impactful the coatings on the pans are because of how many other sources of these kinds of fluorocarbons are in house hold items, and in the environment due to large companies disposing of them recklessly. We know for a fact that basically everyone has some level of these compounds in them due to their ubiquity.

      The pans are just one potential source and a particularly notable one because they’re in contact with food.