• Kecessa@sh.itjust.worksdeleted by creator
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    2 years ago

    That’s the first part, used correctly it’s a non issue so just use your nonstick correctly.

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        2 years ago

        Using nonstick correctly: Don’t use metal and don’t heat it over 260 °C

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        2 years ago

        Source on the pan giving you cancer?

        Yes, non-stick becomes stick because the teflon coating comes off, it’s really hard to make teflon stick to anything. Using metal utensils will hasten this but afaik simply using heat will help loosen the teflon coating.

        I don’t mind buying a new non-stick pan about every 5 years (last one lasted 7), I usuall stick to the cheapest ones, they serve a specific service to me that stainless ones can’t do.

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            2 years ago

            Afaik the coating is not a carcinogen only under certain circumstances like high heat can it produce something unsafe but even there it’s just potential, not yet proved to be carcinogenic but feel free to prove me wrong.

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                2 years ago

                Are we reading the same article? It doesn’t say it’s bound to the pan. Why bother to choose a source that you don’t read and disagrees with you?

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                    2 years ago

                    I’m out of my element here but my understanding is that the chemicals in the FDA article are not the non stick layer, it was used in creating it and is bound to it. While I wouldn’t suggest eating it (the coating) and can be harmful when heated to levels uncommon (but not impossible) in a kitchen environment there’s no proof that teflon dishes can increase the chance of cancer.

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            2 years ago

            The part you quoted says nothing about cancer, article only mentions potential risks with no evidence and no article cited. I’m sorry but articles like these are why people believe chocolate cures cancer or sitting down is as bad as smoking.

            I don’t claim there’s no connection but so far I’ve seen no evidence.

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          I bought a cheap stainless pan about 20 years ago. Don’t have issues with food sticking, don’t have to worry abouy coatings coming off, and if the handle breaks I can make a new one.

          Coating breaks down, stainless doesn’t.

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            I have a mix of stainless steel and cast iron. I’m not terribly worried about consuming small amounts of either of those.

            A bonus is that because it’s all metal I can use most of it in ovens or while cooking outdoors.

            Sticking isn’t really that much of an issue if you’re careful. I feel like non-stick would’ve never taken off if people knew how toxic it was in 1970.

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      2 years ago

      In other words don’t do what I did and put half a litre into a $6 pot on your new induction cooktop and set it to 2kW to see how long it takes to boil.

      It boils quick.

      It then boils more enthusiastically than you’ve ever seen before, and a cancerous stench fills the air as the coating breaks down and the pot deforms.

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      2 years ago

      recent studies have stated that the pans offgas from manufacturing for weeks after you’ve bought them, no heating needed, so no, that’s not correct. and it was known that they offgas at only 325ºF years ago. https://www.ewg.org/research/canaries-kitchen

      so no, teflon pans are bad no matter how you use them, they’re bad for the environment, they’re bad for your health, they’re bad for animals, they’re bad for babies that haven’t been born yet.