Pretty straightforward: where does the awareness that porn wrecks your mind and sexuality stops and where does simply conservatism towards sexuality begins (even in cases akin to bolshe morality)?

EDIT: okay, better clarifying it - i came across some video from some youtuber claiming that pornography is evil, period. and that there are things such as “metapornography”, which could apply to someone in instagram posting videos of themselves in scant dressing and claiming likes of it. and that no-fap and anti-masturbation movements are good things.

i was really confused about that since that person came from apparently a progressive-yet-moralistic background. but talking to other people to see if some of my impressions checked, it came to my mind that it was a heavily directed video intended to attract left-leaning people to a conservative agenda. my bad.

  • Vanth@reddthat.comEnglish
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    3 days ago

    Bolshe morality? What in the samhill is that?

    Porn wrecks your mind?

    Porn stops your sexuality? Wtf.

    The real question is do you recognize you’re in some rabbit hole and that you shouldn’t assume even your starting framework is agreed upon by most other people.

    Edit: your edit only makes me wonder if you’re satisfied with the algorithm funneling you to this sort of content and how your viewing habits reinforce it. Why wonder about people who think porn stunts their sexuality (still wtf?!?) when you can be watching literally anything else? Any idiot can post a YouTube video, doesn’t mean you have to watch it.

      • Vanth@reddthat.comEnglish
        11·
        4 days ago

        Hmm, not familiar with the connection. I stumbled across it while roaming Wikipedia. Origins are unknown possible from “Samiel”, the name of the Devil in some opera. Or Sam Hill, a man in the 1800s known for using such foul language that his own name became a swear. Imagine that. While most strive to leave their mark on the world by leaving something good behind or raising good kids or helping someone in a life-changing way or whatever, he left behind his own name as a swear.

      • Vanth@reddthat.comEnglish
        41·
        4 days ago

        Please don’t put some ridiculous binary statement in my mouth. There’s miles of distance between “porn wrecks your mind” and “excessive porn use can contribute to mental health and relationship issues”.

              • Vanth@reddthat.comEnglish
                2·
                3 days ago

                I think you have a very different perspective from me on what OP was asking and what this thread is. To paraphrase:

                OP said “here are these extreme claims that seem strange to me, is this really what most people believe?”

                To which I said, “wtf, no, those are way out there. You’re in a YouTube bubble that doesn’t reflect the mainstream nor anyone with a data-based position”.

                And you… seem to want to argue about the actual effects of porn. This is not a conversation about the effects of porn, this is a thread about how the yt video OP saw is propaganda. You don’t need to expend effort to pick out the small bits of truth within misinformation and propaganda. If you want to discuss the effects of porn, post a thread and find someone who wants to have that discussion. Good luck.