To us, it feels like you’re all being idealists and thinking that everyone thinks like you. News flash: they don’t. The average American will look at Biden and either decide not to vote or vote for the other guy.
I don’t care where you decide to group us, but please try to understand there are people trying to win this election and keep fascism from overtaking this country and those people might have a different approach that is worth considering.
People calling for him to step aside are desperate for something to happen as soon as possible so that people have as much time as possible to rally behind the next candidate.
The longer this gets drawn out the higher the chance that Trump gets elected.
And what you’re doing isn’t helpful either. We can’t just ignore what is happening and continue to push forward with an obviously problematic candidate.
The Dollar Store dictator is dead even with the dementia patient – this is not acceptable. Any alternative candidate (for either party) would be a massive improvement, at this point. Stop denying it.
I’m not denying it. I’m saying having an actual plan in the really-real world where we’re all going to the polls to vote in 4 months is necessary. I personally can’t imagine a plan that doesn’t start with a Biden endorsement but I am receptive to ideas.
If there isn’t a real live actual viable plan that can be executed; where enough voters can rally around the plan and candidate and not be butt-hurt and vengeful that their primary vote is being discarded and show up at the polls to vote for democracy then Trump will win.
And until that plan is made and executed whinging about Biden isn’t helpful. We all saw the debate. We know the situation.
In the eternal words of Mike Tyson, “Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the face.” Biden’s debate performance was a punch in America’s face.
I agree that we need a NEW plan, but we cannot just stick to the old plan and old candidate, simply because somebody’s feelings might get hurt. We have not yet held either convention, so there is time to find and coalesce around a new candidate.
No one is saying this situation is ideal, but considering the recent SCOTUS rulings and geopolitical sentiments, we cannot just continue to ignore that something is undeniably wrong with Biden.
I think that it isn’t unrealistic for the Biden campaign to transition to the Kamala campaign, or Whitmer campaign, or Newsom campaign etc etc. and recycle much of extent infrastructure there. It just requires Biden to do what’s right for the country and hand over the keys.
Anyone calling to replace him with no fucking plan is hoping for exactly that.
Your binary thinking isn’t helping you at all. Check my comment history and tell me I want trump.
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To us, it feels like you’re all being idealists and thinking that everyone thinks like you. News flash: they don’t. The average American will look at Biden and either decide not to vote or vote for the other guy.
I don’t care where you decide to group us, but please try to understand there are people trying to win this election and keep fascism from overtaking this country and those people might have a different approach that is worth considering.
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…and who’s being the “self-destructive idealist” now?
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That’s the “only way”??? Are you sure?!
People calling for him to step aside are desperate for something to happen as soon as possible so that people have as much time as possible to rally behind the next candidate.
The longer this gets drawn out the higher the chance that Trump gets elected.
I’m not saying you want Trump. I’m saying doing what you’re doing isn’t helpful.
And what you’re doing isn’t helpful either. We can’t just ignore what is happening and continue to push forward with an obviously problematic candidate.
The Dollar Store dictator is dead even with the dementia patient – this is not acceptable. Any alternative candidate (for either party) would be a massive improvement, at this point. Stop denying it.
I’m not denying it. I’m saying having an actual plan in the really-real world where we’re all going to the polls to vote in 4 months is necessary. I personally can’t imagine a plan that doesn’t start with a Biden endorsement but I am receptive to ideas.
If there isn’t a real live actual viable plan that can be executed; where enough voters can rally around the plan and candidate and not be butt-hurt and vengeful that their primary vote is being discarded and show up at the polls to vote for democracy then Trump will win.
And until that plan is made and executed whinging about Biden isn’t helpful. We all saw the debate. We know the situation.
In the eternal words of Mike Tyson, “Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the face.” Biden’s debate performance was a punch in America’s face.
I agree that we need a NEW plan, but we cannot just stick to the old plan and old candidate, simply because somebody’s feelings might get hurt. We have not yet held either convention, so there is time to find and coalesce around a new candidate.
No one is saying this situation is ideal, but considering the recent SCOTUS rulings and geopolitical sentiments, we cannot just continue to ignore that something is undeniably wrong with Biden.
I think we largely agree. I’m just saying the old plan is the best plan we have until there is a new plan.
You can’t burn the bridge until after you cross the river.
Same, but my friend, our bridge is already on fire. So what do we do now?
I think that it isn’t unrealistic for the Biden campaign to transition to the Kamala campaign, or Whitmer campaign, or Newsom campaign etc etc. and recycle much of extent infrastructure there. It just requires Biden to do what’s right for the country and hand over the keys.
Moat people don’t care about the formalities of the nomination. Given a chance to vote for someone decent who isn’t Buden or Trump, many of them will.