The Biden administration is considering bringing certain Palestinians fleeing war-torn Gaza to the U.S. as refugees, according to internal federal government documents obtained by CBS News.
so random Europeans who converted to Judaism a couple years ago can seize it.
Fucking what
EDIT: Love that I’m getting downvoted for being appalled by the “They aren’t REAL Jews” rhetoric here. Stay classy. Maybe if you embrace enough antisemitism, you’ll stop the ongoing genocide of the Palestinian people.
There’s this notion that modern Israelis are essentially just Europeans who invaded after WWII, which is simply not true.
While the Zionist movement largely did originate in Europe in the late 1800s, the majority of Israeli citizens today are not of European ancestry / Ashkenazi. The majority are what’s called Mizrahi, coming from Middle Eastern Jewish communities that were forcibly expelled from Arab countries during the 50s and 60s. For instance, Ben Gvir, the current Minister of Defense (and to be clear, a complete little shit), is from an Iraqi family. In 1948, there were roughly 150,000 Jews in Iraq, making up nearly 40% of the population of Baghdad. Today, there are estimated to be less than five. Likewise, in Yemen, there were roughly 50,000 Jews, maintaining a presence that goes back well over 2500 years. Today, there may be one single Jew left in the country. The same situation happened all throughout the Arab world. The departing Jews generally had to flee their homes without any significant belongings, since their property was often confiscated. In Syria, for instance, a 1964 decree prevented Jews from traveling more than 3 miles from their homes, banned them from owning land, banned them from working in the government or in banks, banned them from leaving anything as inheritance - which would instead be seized by the state.
This person thinks that because the Jews who emigrated to Israel after the Holocaust were from Europe, their grandchildren who were born in Israel are somehow not deserving of living where they were born and should “go back where they came from”. It’s the same old dog whistle
You understand that there are literal former American citizens living in the occupied territories, right? Like, when you hear about settlers in kibbutzs a lot of them are former Americans and Europeans.
Israel is a European colonial project, there were already people living in the area before Israel was created in 1940s.
And you think those are just random Europeans who converted to Judaism to seize Israel for the lulz? Because that’s quite clearly the assertion that I quoted and am disputing.
Fuck, man, I think the creation of Israel was a mistake, but “They aren’t real Jews!” is going into some Black Israelites shit.
Israel is a European colonial project, there were already people living in the area before Israel was created in 1940s.
Zionism predates the creation of Israel. The creation of Israel was recognition of a de facto state of affairs that had developed out of the collapse of the Ottoman Empire which resulted in large numbers of Jews fleeing traditionally-antisemitic Europe (as Nazi Germany would soon prove was a life-saving choice), and later of Jews fleeing a rising wave of nationalist antisemitism in Arab states.
No one said anything about “real Jews”, we’re talking about Israelis, who are at most a single generation away from being European, many of the older generation were born in Europe regardless of religion.
So yes, Israelis are European colonists who displaced the people who lived on that land for many generations before any of them showed up.
Zionism predates the creation of Israel.
Yup, created in Europe late 18th century.
Nothing you’ve described entitles European colonists to the land in Israel. They are there now, Israel isn’t going anywhere, but that does not excuse the ongoing genocide of the people who lived there already and have a much more substantiated claim to the land.
No one said anything about “real Jews”, we’re talking about Israelis who are at most a single generation away from being European, many of the older generation were born in Europe regardless of religion.
Jesus Christ.
First, please look into the demographics of Israeli Jews.
Second, “At most a single generation”? Jesus fucking Christ, are you being serious?
So yes, Israelis are European colonists who displaced the people who lived on that land for many generations before any of them showed up.
I feel like we could get into a long argument here about the history of the region, but I think all of that is secondary to the fact that none of that has anything to do with Europeans converting to Judaism to steal Palestinian land. Jews from Europe, fleeing persecution, came to Palestine, where there was already a sizable Jewish minority.
Nothing you’ve described entitles European colonists to the land in Israel. They are there now, Israel isn’t going anywhere, but that does not excuse the ongoing genocide of the people who lived there already and have a much more substantiated claim to the land.
When the fuck have I excused the ongoing genocide?
Here, let me help you out by requoting literally everything I said before you objected to me:
so random Europeans who converted to Judaism a couple years ago can seize it.
Fucking what
EDIT: Love that I’m getting downvoted for being appalled by the “They aren’t REAL Jews” rhetoric here. Stay classy. Maybe if you embrace enough antisemitism, you’ll stop the ongoing genocide of the Palestinian people.
There’s this notion that modern Israelis are essentially just Europeans who invaded after WWII, which is simply not true.
While the Zionist movement largely did originate in Europe in the late 1800s, the majority of Israeli citizens today are not of European ancestry / Ashkenazi. The majority are what’s called Mizrahi, coming from Middle Eastern Jewish communities that were forcibly expelled from Arab countries during the 50s and 60s. For instance, Ben Gvir, the current Minister of Defense (and to be clear, a complete little shit), is from an Iraqi family. In 1948, there were roughly 150,000 Jews in Iraq, making up nearly 40% of the population of Baghdad. Today, there are estimated to be less than five. Likewise, in Yemen, there were roughly 50,000 Jews, maintaining a presence that goes back well over 2500 years. Today, there may be one single Jew left in the country. The same situation happened all throughout the Arab world. The departing Jews generally had to flee their homes without any significant belongings, since their property was often confiscated. In Syria, for instance, a 1964 decree prevented Jews from traveling more than 3 miles from their homes, banned them from owning land, banned them from working in the government or in banks, banned them from leaving anything as inheritance - which would instead be seized by the state.
This person thinks that because the Jews who emigrated to Israel after the Holocaust were from Europe, their grandchildren who were born in Israel are somehow not deserving of living where they were born and should “go back where they came from”. It’s the same old dog whistle
You understand that there are literal former American citizens living in the occupied territories, right? Like, when you hear about settlers in kibbutzs a lot of them are former Americans and Europeans.
Israel is a European colonial project, there were already people living in the area before Israel was created in 1940s.
And you think those are just random Europeans who converted to Judaism to seize Israel for the lulz? Because that’s quite clearly the assertion that I quoted and am disputing.
Fuck, man, I think the creation of Israel was a mistake, but “They aren’t real Jews!” is going into some Black Israelites shit.
Zionism predates the creation of Israel. The creation of Israel was recognition of a de facto state of affairs that had developed out of the collapse of the Ottoman Empire which resulted in large numbers of Jews fleeing traditionally-antisemitic Europe (as Nazi Germany would soon prove was a life-saving choice), and later of Jews fleeing a rising wave of nationalist antisemitism in Arab states.
No one said anything about “real Jews”, we’re talking about Israelis, who are at most a single generation away from being European, many of the older generation were born in Europe regardless of religion.
So yes, Israelis are European colonists who displaced the people who lived on that land for many generations before any of them showed up.
Yup, created in Europe late 18th century.
Nothing you’ve described entitles European colonists to the land in Israel. They are there now, Israel isn’t going anywhere, but that does not excuse the ongoing genocide of the people who lived there already and have a much more substantiated claim to the land.
Jesus Christ.
First, please look into the demographics of Israeli Jews.
Second, “At most a single generation”? Jesus fucking Christ, are you being serious?
I feel like we could get into a long argument here about the history of the region, but I think all of that is secondary to the fact that none of that has anything to do with Europeans converting to Judaism to steal Palestinian land. Jews from Europe, fleeing persecution, came to Palestine, where there was already a sizable Jewish minority.
When the fuck have I excused the ongoing genocide?
Here, let me help you out by requoting literally everything I said before you objected to me: