• Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    What “valid reasons” are there to support the continued sales of weapons that are being used for genocide?

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      8 months ago

      It’s like if a tumblr reading comprehension meme came to life after wishing to become a real boy

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        8 months ago

        I say “Biden should stop supporting genocide.”

        Centrists respond with false accusations, abuse, condescension, dismissal, and gaslighting. They do not respond with their “valid reasons” for disagreeing with “Biden should stop supporting genocide,” but they certainly make it clear that they hate anyone who says it.

        What conclusion should I draw from that other than “centrists support genocide”?

        I know you’re going to try to limit the scope of discussion to this thread alone, as though my original comment wasn’t based on the broader context of centrists calling people who want Biden to stop selling weapons that he knows will be used for genocide “russian.”

        If you claim that you’ve never seen it happen anywhere on lemmy, you’re lying.

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          8 months ago

          Okay let’s try a little different approach

          So take a look at something like this – this person is saying Biden supports genocide and that’s bad, and only that, and they’re getting almost unanimous upvotes and only one comment, which is agreement.

          In contrast, your comments which say Biden supports genocide and also saying some additional statements in addition, don’t get the same reception.

          What do you think is the difference? Why did people like this person’s post so much, if being against genocide in your world is this wildly unpopular maverick stance to take within Lemmy politics?

          (Edit: Made more polite)

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            8 months ago

            In contrast, your comments which say Biden supports genocide and also saying some additional statements in addition, don’t get the same reception.

            https://lemmy.world/comment/8972976

            What additional statements did I lead with there? Oh yeah, I must be making shit up because you don’t want to accept that saying that Biden should not support genocide - by itself without anything additional - brings out hostility right here on lemmy.

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              8 months ago

              Interesting. What do you think causes the difference in reception between your simple statement and @fiend_unpleasant@lemmy.world’s? I have my theory but I’m curious what you think.

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                8 months ago

                I wonder what the reply to that user said before it was removed.

                I think centrists’ opinion regarding Netanyahu’s genocide has shifted since the deliberate targeting of aid trucks from World Central Kitchen. Tens of thousands of Gazans are dead, and this isn’t the first aid convoy Israel has destroyed during this genocide, but it’s the first one operated by a celebrity chef.

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                  8 months ago

                  The exchange was:

                  fiend_unpleasant: I mean materially supporting genocide is pretty fucking bad

                  abcdqfr: It’s almost like this two party system was always a bad idea advised against from the start by George Washington at the inception of this removed.

                  fiend_unpleasant: OMG 10000 times this. I have spent so many nights screaming into the dark over this point

                  I think centrists’ opinion regarding Netanyahu’s genocide has shifted

                  So… now they don’t support genocide anymore, now that the food trucks were destroyed?

                  What’s the reason then why they were so hostile to your comment in this thread (which came after the food trucks were destroyed) in a way they weren’t hostile to fiend_unpleasant’s?

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                    8 months ago

                    So… now they don’t support genocide anymore, now that the food trucks were destroyed?

                    No, they still support genocide. They’re just questioning that support now that the dead include the celebrity-adjacent.

                    What’s the reason then why they were so hostile to your comment

                    Well, one of them was Cryophilia. Search his username in the modlog to see what he’s all about. I’m pretty sure you already know, though.

                    Another is you, and we’ve butted heads before.

                    I can only speculate about downvotes that were unaccompanied by comments. I already said I thought that they were personally offended. In any event, I was referring to a pattern of behavior I had noticed and that you’re pretending isn’t a thing.