No? I’m having a hard time separating actual disinformation and legitimate criticism being McCharty’ed. Eurovision is indeed legitimizing the apartheid state currently committing genocide, while my state is deeming protests Russian disinformation.

Indeed. Seems like EU is dead set on joining the US economic war on China.

Ad hominem, whataboutism

There it is, the cry of the beaten information warrior

And I say this as someone as far left as left goes.

This is much like beginning a comment with “I’m not racist, but”, with the inevitable horrible racism that follows. Your comment is such a gross simplification of history and dismissal of context, that it borders on the malign. For instance the number in your source says 15-55 million, not 55 million. The ideological broadside is very apparent. Facts not feelings, to paraphrase a broken clock.

1. Yes, China had a terrible famine in the 60s, but far left people tend to consider it in context China’s historical famines, as well as the many millions dead to capitalist induced famine.
2. Leftists tend to consider deaths and consequences of capitalist imperialism when discussing foreign and developing nations.
3. Today India is listed as a country in “Serious” risk in the Global Hunger Index, while China is of course “Low”.

These are just three aspects of context, of many, which you could have chosen to inform your comment. In stead it is perpetuating a US-vs-Them cold war, black and white rhetoric, making the West out to be exceptionally good, while China is entirely bad. Smart people smell the lies included in such oversimplification a long way. You run fast and loose with your facts, presenting allegations of Uyghur genocide as fact, while you probably know how the UN will not call it that, after long running and thorough investigations, a lack of evidence, etc. On the other hand, we in Europe are very much facilitating the ongoing genocide in Palestine, of which there is ample coverage.

There you go again making blanket statements, giving you a look of either being a little daft and unnuanced or some kind of propagandist. “Nothing good”, unless you count biggest lift of people from poverty in history. Imagine two people being born in the sixties in India and China respectively. Both are dirt poor back then. Today one will still be poor, still in a third world country, while the other drives EVs, get their power from worlds largest green energy infrastructure, has working public services, best train system, etc.

I think it’s hard to tell and would advise against bombastic blanket statements like this, especially on China. We’re talking about one billion people and the world’s largest economy, after all. Our ability to clearly analyze China is hindered by its own opaqueness, but one should not forget the thick layer of propaganda we in the West are served whenever we’re talking about one of the so-called strategic adversaries.

Ok, I misunderstood you.

Honestly, when it comes to helping their national companies get ahead in the global market, European countries aren’t that different from anywhere else. It’s like a global game where everyone’s trying to sneak their products into the lead with a little help from home. Think of it as governments giving their players the best gear, secret strategies, and even a map of shortcuts. Whether it’s subsidies, regulatory loopholes, or strategic support, the end goal is the same: make sure our team wins, even if it means bending the rules of fair play. So next time you see a European car or product leading the pack, remember, it might have had a little “help” getting there.

Trade agreements inside the European single market? What are you on about, buddy? Seems like lazy apologetics. Of course there are state aid rules in the EU, but the fact of the matter is that everyone from Hugo Boss to Seat and Nokia has been on the receiving end of favorable conditions from their home countries (Nazi uniform contracts in Boss’ case). Hell, even the American giants like Microsoft and Apple are propped up on government contracts.

Well, yeah, it’s complicated and all that, but still. For instance, did you know Huawei is a cooperative? I just learned.

Sorry, haven’t almost all our European industries relied heavily on government subsidies, privatization of previously public entities, protectionism and so on? China is a socialist country, of course the government is subsidizing production. The reality is that China is outcompeting capitalist Europe (now sacrificed by the US) on capitalist terms. This move seems like an abandonment of free market laissez faire thinking in favour of mercantilism/outright iron curtain, while blaming it on the other guy.

But what does it help, as long as the centre keeps supporting Israel, antisosial climate legislation, Ukraine aid and further neoliberal reforms? It’s gonna get worse before it gets better, Kameraden.

Edit: Looking at it from the outside, it’s gonna be Bündnis Sarah Wagenknecht or barbarism, I’m afraid. Of nothing else they accept realities of the US headed Nordstream terror attack.

Aid or another fat contribution to the already brim full pockets of war profiteers?

As a VIM user, I approve.

First of, this is not a call to revert the process but to adhere to what was publicly announced, and not some last-minute backroom deal for authoritarian control. Second, those companies are mostly European, in addition to the hundreds of European cybersecurity experts who are signatories. Third, your solution is horrible.