Capitalism. The people calling the shots and keeping the profits are not the people doing the work.

It’s bad and will continue to be bad for everyone except the top layer of rich people.

Legitimately aggravating. Well done.

This one maybe ? https://www.wheresyoured.at/the-men-who-killed-google/

Right? But it was so … Short sighted, to think it would last forever and you’d never need to organize.

I remember an old coworker said he was anti union. “I’d just find another job if I didn’t like the one I had”, he said. Bold claim.

Criminal penalties for decision makers. Jail time. Disgorgement of profits.

Once again, you have ignored what I’m saying to argue against something imaginary. You’re not worth engaging with.

This is refreshing. I’m so tired of right wing people being like “the government can’t do anything right and I’m going to prove it by sabotaging and starving the government”.

Friend. The argument isn’t “you should judge something by its reputation”. The argument is people do that. It is a heuristic or whatever you call that kind of shortcuts.

It is impossible to assess the validity of every source and detail. We rely on trust and reputation and other signals. It’s faster, cheaper, and good enough for most things. When your friend you and trust says “I’ve got some free candy in the van” you probably respond differently than when a blood soaked stranger does.

I’m not saying we should rely on this entirely. I’m simply saying that’s a fact of life. People save effort by not critically evaluating everything from first principles when they can just go “my friend recommended it, this Taco place is probably good”. It could be a horrible taco place! But it’s faster to go by something like in-group recommendations than a full research project.

I feel like I’m repeating myself into the void. Surely you don’t all launch extensive research projects for every piece of information and decision that you come across.

This whole damned thread started from someone saying

Criticism is not evaluated by where it comes from, but by whether it’s true or false.

And that’s just not how humans act all of the time! Sometimes, often, they don’t think through everything. They don’t research. They look at the source and go “nah”.

You can argue that’s bad, and sure it often is. But that doesn’t change the fact that that’s how people behave.

You keep ignoring my point to extrude a lot of words.

People assess what people say in part based on the reputation of the speaker. That’s it.

And I’m saying people do exactly that. They read a tabloid that says anything and they go “yeah I don’t trust the enquirer” and either dismiss it, or find another source to confirm.

Surely you don’t trust the factual claims of a tabloid as much as a reputable paper, or an unkempt man screaming on the street corner as much as your history professor.

Seems like most people don’t really care about or understand stuff like “private platforms enshittify”. Certainly not enough to be inconvenienced. People will be like “that’s where the good memes are” or “that’s where my video games post”. Heavens forbid you miss the hot memes.

I don’t know what everyone else is thinking, but to my mind people consider the source. You’re more likely to believe a reputable newspaper than a tabloid, I hope.

Lol. No. The parent quote was

Criticism is not evaluated by where it comes from, but by whether it’s true or false

My response rejects “criticism is not evaluated by where it comes from” (using a colloquial sense of criticism, like if a place is good or bad). People definitely evaluate based in part on the source.

The song game. I feel like a lot of people have come up with it naturally.

One person plays a song. The next person has to then play a song with some sort of connection to it. Like, you could follow the velvet underground’s “Sunday Morning” with Nirvana’s “Lithium” because it has the line “Sunday morning is every day for all I care”. Any connection is valid so long as the group accepts it, but I prefer lyrical ones myself.

That’s it. You go around until you lose interest.

I like it as a way to share music, because to do well you typically have to actually listen with their song.

I will continue to avoid McDonald’s. Not going to break a no-meat streak for a shitty burger.

Humans evaluate facts by the source. People trust their in-group. Someone is far more likely to listen to someone they trust and perceive as in-group than someone who’s out-group, regardless of the facts.

Sometimes this makes sense. If a guy in a nazi uniform told me the bar down the street is a great time, I’m probably not going to go there.

Every one of those right wing complainers are among the worst people on earth.

They never seem to complain about rich people who just live off investments and inherited wealth.

Just spent 10 minutes fooling around with fluxer via the web ui. Was able to invite a dice bot, but couldn’t get it to respond. (Also it’s very D&D-specific, but that’s a separate complaint)

Looks so much like Discord

Retire. Don’t like my job. Tech is circling the drain.

Other people posted some details but essentially if you’re not an idiot you can park that in safe investments and live a happy life.

I get so frustrated when I read about people who like win a few million, blow it on like stupid cars and houses, and end up poor again. Just don’t do that.