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Cake day: June 26th, 2023

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  • It would be silly to acknowledge US imperialism and ignore China’s Belt and road imperialism.

    I don’t ignore China’s act. In fact I acknowledge both. It’s normal that some powerful countries would want to exert control upon others. The question is their methodologies and how long can they sustain the approval.

    The only difference is those manufactured islands that are designed to expand China’s landmass

    Yeah, none of the SEA countries are happy with this. But they’re dependent on the relationship and they don’t have the capacity to resist. The best they can do is, “We’ll solve this diplomatically”. I think what’s currently happen with Philippines with will set the precedence for the future as they have gone beyond just claiming the territory.

    I wonder what you think about the Chinese concept of the “central kingdom”…

    I don’t know much about this. need to read more on this.

    BTW, in no such way that I say that I supported what China does. But I try to convey the sentiment towards them is not just one sided. You’re knowledgeable enough that you understand this, but some people are in denial that they think that the whole world is united to go against the oppressive China when in reality China has been slowly gaining support in non-traditional places such as in African continent for example (let’s not touch about it just to keep it short). If the best line of defence is by shouting ‘China is a fascist country’, like what sub-OP has done, that’s now not going to work for obvious reason.

    And I think I need to correct my words earlier - For me, unlike the US, the Europe are still friendly in the way the treat their relationship with China. However, we can see that at one point, one has to take side, or least becoming neutral. These coming years we’ll be seeing more and more issues being brought up to set the tone for the future.


  • Man, no need to react aggressively. Why don’t you keep the discussion healthy by giving your arguments instead.

    If you read my history, I am not even a Chinese. However I like to keep abreast of what happened around the world and discuss and give my opinion on wide area of subjects, simply to understand what going on around us. Of course some of my opinion are not always popular to certain communities, especially on certain issues like this, but I appreciate better intellectual response.


  • I stated before of ‘diplomatic and economic relarionships’ as that what usually dictate how the country move forward. In a simple words, the ASEAN governments don’t see China as a threat to their economic growth. This is different that the way EU see China - seeing as enemy that will directly jeopardise their economy. You just need to read the title of this post to simply acknowledge that.

    Yes, the milk tea alliance will definitely disagree with me. In some Asean countries, democracy has been suppressed, e.g. in Myanmar and in notable but lesser extend and longer period in Thailand. We can see that China has been backing these countries and logically will be seen as enemy by the citizens that has been suppressed. However, I don’t think things would change much. The ASEAN leaders still consider China as important towards the stability of the region, and ASEAN has a policy to turn a blind eye on what domestically happens in its member countries, unless its very serious like in Myanmar. So, as long as each members remains friendly to each other, nothing much would change - business as usual.


  • I can imagine this kind of thought from the Europe and the US. But many of the countries in Asia, at least from South East Asia, don’t see it that way. Although some these countries have territorial disputes With China, diplomatically and economically they are very close. One of the big reasons is they have a policy of ‘enriching your neighbours’ where if the neighbouring countries are prosperous, then by ripple effect the country itself will prosper.

    I know I’ll get downvoted for stating this, as it has always been before. My intention is just to explain that the world is bigger than what evolve around us, and not everyone thinks the same. It better to understand the complexity and study why rather than making a generalized statement.