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Cake day: July 21st, 2023

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  • Tarrifs must be congressional approved first. That means the bill must be presented, debated on, voted on, then signed.

    Unless Congress has already given the president that authority.

    In early 2018 President Trump imposed tariffs on steel and aluminum imports under Section 232 of the Trade Expansion Act of 1962. This law states that the president can raise tariffs on imports that pose a threat to national security. Section 232 allows the President to implement these tariffs without the approval of Congress, following an investigation by the Department of Commerce. The Commerce Department has noted that threats to national security may include “fostering U.S. dependence on unreliable or unsafe imports” or “fundamentally threatening the ability of U.S. domestic industries to satisfy national security needs.”1



  • They responded

    You’re saying “they”, but it’s you. And no you didn’t, repeating what you said before isn’t addressing the issues.

    Adressed twice.

    Never addressed at all, you pivoted to the oil industry. You didn’t address the subsidies from China or the unfair trade practices.

    America will not subsidize to that level, if they could, and no amount of innovation is going to combat subsidization or the unfair trade practices.

    According to a Bloomberg article, China will sell EVs at under $10,000, undercutting the price of the average American EV by $50,000. Are you seriously arguing that “investment to lower cost” will reduce the cost by 85-90%? That’s simply a ludicrous assertion.

    You think US products won’t have spyware?

    I don’t think that collecting anonymized usage data, is the same as unlimited spying going back to an authoritarian government. So no, absolutely nothing comparable.



  • Americans get cheaper EVs…

    For a few years, until the American automakers go bankrupt, as you said, then the Chinese automakers increase prices 10x.

    …and the legacy auto industry gets taught a valuable lesson as companies who refused to modernize go bankrupt.

    What a valuable lesson, get subsidized by an authoritarian government so that you can offer vehicles below cost. Also be sure to add spyware for the aforementioned authoritarian government.

    Do you even understand what below cost means? No amount of modernization will counteract it.