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Cake day: September 5th, 2023

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  • As a finn, I disagree (who would have thunk?). There’s probably quite some broken telephone going on at the moment. European leaders were told that this was happening, and there was discussions with Ukraine beforehand.

    This war WILL end by discussions and the signing of a fancy piece of paper. Holding a off the record discussions about current terms is a lot more productive than trying to infer the others wishes via public facing speeches or state media.

    Let’s also think about who is talking currently. We don’t know what Ukraine is saying and to who. The orange orangutan is making deals with Russia. He also wants to bring in China, who also don’t stand to gain much from a Ukrainian success.

    No one has surrendered anything, we do need to take space in negotiations however. If we don’t negotiate, everyone else will.