How is that even legal, I thought there were data export laws in the eu

You could try https://delta.chat/ instead of WhatsApp

Most importantly, the pipeline from finding a question on SO that you also have, to answering that question after doing some more research is now completely derailed because if you ask an AI a question and it doesn’t have a good answer you have no way to contribute your eventual solution to the problem.

Ah you are correct.

They are polling at 14 seats vs their current 24. There is some reason for optimism. https://nltimes.nl/2025/09/18/vvd-drops-polls-now-equal-d66-ja21

https://delta.chat/

I don’t think this is just a KDE issue as I’m having it on gnome too. Not sure how to fix. I feel like it happens less when I close all background processes before shutting down but idk.

I also choose this guys fiancé

That website was the fastest loading website I’ve ever visited.

Where did I accuse them of selling data right now? I’m simply deducing that they will have to cover the insane costs of their inefficient infrastructure through either becoming a paid app or collecting data to sell.

And my point is that since their costs are so high they will either have to become a paid app or start collecting data to sell. Or become more efficient but you’d think if they knew how they’d already done that.

I think the main red flag is that they are spending so much money. In 2023 they had 55m monthly active users and they spent $35m. The casual WhatsApp user that might switch to Signal is definitely not gonna pay for this so either Signal fans have to donate more or Signal has to start finding other monetization which if we look at other companies means selling private data.

(Also, half their spending is on hosting and they are not self hosting so a donation to Sognal is basically a donation to Amazon and Google.)

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Because Signal is not decentralized nor anonymous

During onboarding of the app you only choose a name and get a random email address

It’s a 0click so you have to have vpn running the entire time on any device that you install signal on

How is it different? In my experience it’s easier as they’ve already heard of email.

You need a phone number to sign up which requires identification in most countries.

Also anyone who knows your username can ping where you are at any time: https://gist.github.com/hackermondev/45a3cdfa52246f1d1201c1e8cdef6117

Delta.chat already exists

The protocol doesn’t really matter when you send encrypted messages over it like Delta Chat. Signal is not private nor decentralized and SimpleX doesn’t have encrypted group chats last time I tried