What’s hard to understand is why you skipped the question I asked, and answered a different one instead.

The creation of the CSAM is unquestionably far more harmful, but I wasn’t talking about the *creation *- I was talking about the possession. The harm of the creation is already done, and whether or not the material exists after that does nothing to undo that harm.

Again, is your prescription the same as it relates to the possession, not generation of CSAM?

It has been several years, and he did cry a lot when it happened

He’s not new to the circuit, and he cried when it looked like he might wind up in prison. None of this is remorse.

I’m not sure remorse is necessary if it was in self-defense.

True - though I’d say it seems common. Either way, crossing state lines to procure a firearm to take to that protest to create the pretext to shoot people was not self-defence. That’s premeditated.

I’m also not sure what other opportunities he has.

I won’t be losing any sleep over someone having some extra difficulty finding employment after getting away with what he did. There’s no shortage of people that support him - finding a job that doesn’t involve bragging about killing 2 people isn’t a big ask.

Nobody tries to find problems with the hand that feeds them.

This simply isn’t true. I’ve turned down lucrative job offers (e.g. 70%+ more than what I was on at the time plus significant chunks of equity and benefits) because I had concerns about the ethics of the prospective employers. I’ve also spoken out about issues with my employers that have cost me multiple jobs (and chasing me out rather than listening buried at least one of those businesses). I don’t hold others to standards I don’t uphold myself.

Honestly, with everything said about people like Dennis Prager and TPUSA, from his perspective he can just think “leftists hate and lie about them like they hated and lied about me”.

I’m not going to make excuses for him dismissing the endless, quantified criticism of a transparently dishonest, racist propaganda outfit and the parade of absolute scumbags he chose to work alongside.

Strange of you to respond to a comment about the fakes being shared in this way…

Do you have the same prescriptions in relation to someone with a stash of CSAM, and if not, why not?

The internet made photos of trump and putin kissing shirtless.

And is that OK?

I’m going to jump in on this one and say yes - it’s mostly fine.

I look at these things through the lens of the harm they do and the benefits they deliver - consequentialism and act utilitarianism.

The benefits are artistic, comedic and political.

The “harm” is that Putin and or Trump might feel bad, maaaaaaybe enough that they’d kill themselves. All that gets put back up under benefits as far as I’m concerned - they’re both extremely powerful monsters that have done and will continue to do incredible harm.

The real harm is that such works risk normalising this treatment of regular folk, which is genuinely harmful. I think that’s unlikely, but it’s impossible to rule out.

Similarly, the dissemination of the kinds of AI fakes under discussion is a negative because they do serious,measurable harm.

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He’s already been impeached for all the good it did.

The issue is that the GOP has power, and they’ve hitched their wagon to Trump, meaning that they’ll move heaven and earth to protect him. Rules, norms, fairness, representation and integrity don’t matter one bit - it’s all self-interest.

Here’s mine.

Travelling interstate to put yourself in a position to shoot 3 people, killing two of them is incredibly stupid at best. Proceeding from that to a job for a transparently dishonest media org that has hired you primarily to celebrate your killings demonstrates a total lack of remorse, and incites similar politically motivated killings in what amounts to pretty clear-cut stochastic terrorism. If we take him at his word, he’s done no research into the media company that hired him, and has been on stage at events where openly racist nonsense has been celebrated without him noticing - if this is true, he’s deficient enough that he should be in assisted living. The reasonable conclusion is that he’s some degree of comfortable with the racism.

So we have a remorseless killer, stochastic terrorist, propagandist (or useful idiot) that doesn’t care about or actively embraces racism.

You’re very empathetic - that’s entirely unremarkable. One can empathise with Hitler - but only a mentally deficient or monstrous person would stop at empathy and be incapable of synthesising conclusions like he was a bad guy that did bad things. It’s like reading without comprehending.

Why can’t you advance past the insistence you empathise with Rittenhouse toward an opinion? Are you deficient or dodging?

I empathize with people. (…) Anyone who paid to see him knew what they were getting.

You’re empathising with the same thing the audience went to see - the extreme right’s posterchild for killing your political opponents. The analysis is super-straightforward and backed by studies - this is simply ignorant hate, fear, and disgust stoked by the likes of TPUSA. The fact that you can’t progress to synthesising straightforward conclusions is a massive red flag.

My mistake - I’ll return to the question you haven’t answered.

Do you consistently defend people that are clearly unqualified and incapable of doing their job as they fail woefully, or is this an edge case for you? I suppose that unlike most, the likes of Rittenhouse and Kirk aren’t doing anything of value - it’s not as though they’re performing surgery, driving a bus, or flipping burgers.

Edit: Most of this is way off topic in response to an entirely different dipshit.

Do you mean baseless assumptions?

No - I mean obvious conclusions - you know, like seeing HD footage of the IDF drone striking obvious unarmed civilians and concluding they’re drone striking obvious unarmed civilians. Never mind the rhetoric of their government or the IDF, or the track record of either. Baseless is pretending it’s plausible they’re Hamas.

This is your reaction to me saying it’s not surprising that a young adult is awkward and doesn’t handle unexpected confrontation well.

Nope - this is in response to you seeing clear, entirely unambiguous evidence of warcrimes and saying we can’t possibly know what’s happening. I know how old I am, and some genocide denying dipshit telling me otherwise isn’t going to change that.

Just to drive the point home, I’ll ask the question we know you can’t answer one final time - where’s your evidence these civilians are Hamas?

And I say the $454m is payable to me personally.

…but the legal system doesn’t work on dumb assertions, does it?

Everyone does that - unlike you, most people are also capable of progressing to conclusions from straightforward situations or answering simple questions.

This has strong neo-Nazi-style “just asking questions” energy. If you’re capable of drawing conclusions, own them. If you’re not, you’ve got nothing to contribute here.

Do you consistently defend people that you admit are unqualified for their job and incapable of doing it - even when it’s as essential as bragging about crossing state lines to procure a gun and manufacture a flimsy legal pretext to kill your political opponents, or is this an outlier for you?

Why would anyone want the cybertruck? Yet at present, it’ll take them over a year to clear their backlog.

Some people are just dumb - that applies doubly for those that love Musk because he speaks the Nazi conspiracism Truth™.

It’s literally his job - he’s a paid spokesperson on a speaking tour.

Rittenhouse isn’t some random dipshit that got cornered (ironically, a favourite of the likes of Crowder and Shapiro until they realised even students embarrass them) - he’s the Daily Wire’s spokesperson for crossing state lines to manufacture a situation to murder your political opponents. He chose to speak in front of that crowd, chose to field questions, and chose to run (presumably because he didn’t have a gun to kill those he disagrees with).

They fly him around the country, but the media outfit he’s working for didn’t bother to invest in media training for their homicidal poster boy?

So much for standing your ground.

I can imagine seeing Rudolph Jitler commit a genocide as the world’s larger powers run cover for him would fuel the kind of desperate anger that drives jihadis.