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  • “Well, that’s exactly right. And there have been allegations made by the Netanyahu government that up to 14 of those 13,000 people were involved in the horrific Oct. 7 attacks,” he said. “We should investigate it, we should hold all those people accountable. But … let’s not hold 2 million innocent Palestinian civilians who are dying of starvation, let’s not hold them, essentially, accountable for the bad acts of 14 people.”

    And this is it. Every leader who immediately cut funds is more than happy to pull a Netanyahu and punish the lives of many for the acts of a few (if there is even a hint of this being true, which considering where it comes from and the provided proof, is highly doubtful). Investigate and deal with anyone who did take part in October 7, but don’t punish everyone. A long time ago we all agreed that counts as a war crime.

    It clearly shows Palestinian lives are not worth the same as other lives. Why else cut all the funding to 2M+ people over the alleged acts of 0.05% of the employees of UNRWA.





  • I get what you’re saying and that might very well be the case but you can’t be neutral in a case like this. Neutral means supporting Israel.

    I have zero respect for countries voting no, but abstaining is no better. You (as a country) are literally preventing others to help by doing so. Someone is getting stabbed in front of you and you go “no, no, don’t help, we shouldn’t interfere”.

    Just let them die I guess, they’re only Palestinians after all.

    Shame on you Canada and all other yellows.



  • B’tselem, The Israeli Information Center for Human Rights in the Occupied Territories says the following:

    Although Israel declared an end to its military administration in Gaza, it continues to control critical aspects of life there. It controls all border crossings by land, apart from Rafah, as well as Gaza’s sea and air space. This control allows Israel to exclusively monitor the movement of people and goods in and out of Gaza, which it regulates according to Israeli interests. This holds true even when Gaza residents wish only to transit through Israel in order to reach the West Bank or other countries.

    Regarding moving of the goal post, you brought up Egypt, not me.

    If you want to continue discussing in good faith, please stick to the talking points.






  • So, let’s look at the definition of genocide and see where Israel lands here.

    Definition

    Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide

    Article II

    In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

    Killing members of the group;

    • Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
    • Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
    • Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
    • Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

    Source: the UN

    So; let’s have a quick look at these points:

    (1) Over 11,000 deaths, majority of civilians. And I’m just talking about deaths since Oct 7, I did not include any numbers from before that. Check.

    (2) Illegal occupation and cutting off food, water, electricity and free movement. Check.

    (3) Unknown to me.

    (4) Unknown to me.

    The head of the UN, Craig Mokhiber, just retired and called it unequivocally a genocide, here’s a source for that, but if you don’t like this source, you can just Google this and find plenty of other sources.

    So, please tell me. How does Israel not fit as a genocidal regime?