I think it’s really hard for them to imagine other people are not doing the thing they’re doing. Especially in this case. Apparently it’s easy to vote 9 times, and “if I’m doing it, then it would be stupid if Dems didn’t”.
So yeah, it’s always projection, because they just can’t imagine a world where others choose the morally right option.
“Well, that’s exactly right. And there have been allegations made by the Netanyahu government that up to 14 of those 13,000 people were involved in the horrific Oct. 7 attacks,” he said. “We should investigate it, we should hold all those people accountable. But … let’s not hold 2 million innocent Palestinian civilians who are dying of starvation, let’s not hold them, essentially, accountable for the bad acts of 14 people.”
And this is it. Every leader who immediately cut funds is more than happy to pull a Netanyahu and punish the lives of many for the acts of a few (if there is even a hint of this being true, which considering where it comes from and the provided proof, is highly doubtful). Investigate and deal with anyone who did take part in October 7, but don’t punish everyone. A long time ago we all agreed that counts as a war crime.
It clearly shows Palestinian lives are not worth the same as other lives. Why else cut all the funding to 2M+ people over the alleged acts of 0.05% of the employees of UNRWA.
We’re doing this again?
I have been using Firefox as the default browser on my iPhone for a while now. It wasn’t complicated to setup either.
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I get what you’re saying and that might very well be the case but you can’t be neutral in a case like this. Neutral means supporting Israel.
I have zero respect for countries voting no, but abstaining is no better. You (as a country) are literally preventing others to help by doing so. Someone is getting stabbed in front of you and you go “no, no, don’t help, we shouldn’t interfere”.
Just let them die I guess, they’re only Palestinians after all.
Shame on you Canada and all other yellows.
Abstain = We’re against a cease fire but we don’t really want to say that out loud, people might think we’re horrible…
B’tselem, The Israeli Information Center for Human Rights in the Occupied Territories says the following:
Although Israel declared an end to its military administration in Gaza, it continues to control critical aspects of life there. It controls all border crossings by land, apart from Rafah, as well as Gaza’s sea and air space. This control allows Israel to exclusively monitor the movement of people and goods in and out of Gaza, which it regulates according to Israeli interests. This holds true even when Gaza residents wish only to transit through Israel in order to reach the West Bank or other countries.
Regarding moving of the goal post, you brought up Egypt, not me.
If you want to continue discussing in good faith, please stick to the talking points.
It seems you haven’t read any of the linked articles, so there is no need to talk about this any further until you do.
So because Egypt isn’t doing enough, Israel isn’t to blame? Right. Solid argument.
What Egypt does or doesn’t do does not in any way negate the fact that Israel is completely out of line.
What an argument “but look at them, they are also bad, which means the even badder guys must not be as bad”.
If you read the charter, you can see that if any of these things apply, it can be labelled a genocide. And you pick one and say “you need to provide proof”, glossing over the glaring fact that even without, it already counts as a genocide.
But sure, if you insist;
You mean right to defend itself under Article 51 of the UN charter, right?
That doesn’t apply if you’re an occupying force. And for anyone saying “Israel doesn’t occupy Gaza, there are no Israeli officials there” if you control movement, water, gas, power, food supplies, where civilians can and can’t travel to, and the territory is not allowed to exist independently, all of that “right to defend yourself” is null and void.
So, let’s look at the definition of genocide and see where Israel lands here.
Definition
Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide
Article II
In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
Killing members of the group;
Source: the UN
So; let’s have a quick look at these points:
(1) Over 11,000 deaths, majority of civilians. And I’m just talking about deaths since Oct 7, I did not include any numbers from before that. Check.
(2) Illegal occupation and cutting off food, water, electricity and free movement. Check.
(3) Unknown to me.
(4) Unknown to me.
The head of the UN, Craig Mokhiber, just retired and called it unequivocally a genocide, here’s a source for that, but if you don’t like this source, you can just Google this and find plenty of other sources.
So, please tell me. How does Israel not fit as a genocidal regime?
Oh look, one genocidal country helping the other, making genocide easier…
I would say he has used his next nine votes prematurely, so not being able to vote the upcoming nine elections only seems fair.