Hell, just put their name, that would be a big help for me.

A narcissist has a lot of empathy… for themself. A racist has a lot of empathy for people of their own race, but zero empathy for people of certain races.

I’ve been in possession of weed enough times that my number would probably be higher than someone who murdered a couple of people but never had weed on them.

You’re assuming they don’t already have a copy. All of the AI companies have government contracts after all.

After the bubble pops how much would our lives be impacted?

A bunch of pensions will lose a lot of money. The billionaires will know when it’s the right time to short it, and so they’ll get wealthier.

Would AI vanish or still be there?

Higher end models like Mythos will still exist but be too expensive for most people to use. Lower end models will still exist. People will start developing actual tools focused on specific tasks using LLM algorithms instead of AGI. Companies will be able to buy LLM appliances they can put into their server rooms that will help with data analysis which doesn’t require sharing data which will be more useful for use with information they want to keep private.

Eventually people will have PCs, then laptops, then phones with chips optimized for LLM algorithms which don’t require sharing private information with a data center. It won’t be AGI, but it will be able to automate things on the computer and help with stuff like helping with grammar. People will be able to say something “computer, bring up the financial report from last week” and it’ll be able to do that. But it’s not going to be an AGI thing, just be able to find the correct program, files, etc. based on some simple cues.

How exactly do you think the bubble will pop? Will AI companies simply run out of money? Or will it be because of the environmental effects?

Similar to how the dot com bubble popped. Some chatter from billionaires about getting out results in them all shorting it at the same time, the share values collapse, but they make a bunch of money.

Will AI companies simply run out of money?

Yes, when they’ve gotten the last investment dollar, the billionaires will know it’s peaked which will result in a big short.

Or will it be because of the environmental effects?

They don’t care about environmental effects LOL.

When do you think the “pop” will take place?

You need to be invited to whatever is the present day equivalent of Epstein Island to know that.

After the bubble pops, in future there will be companies/people who will try the AI thing again? What will that be like?

Yup. We didn’t stop using the internet after the dot com bubble burst. It’s just the financials of it wasn’t insane anymore. LLMs can’t do everything, but it’s an algorithm that’s useful in some scenarios. It will still be useful in those scenarios, but people will stop being weirdos thinking that it’ll be able to do everything. It’s an algorithm, there’s a cost for the hardware and power to run it, in many cases it won’t work at all, in many cases it’ll work but be cost prohibitive, and then in a few cases it will be actually useful and cost effective. We’ll move to using it for only the latter case.

Over time, it will get better and be used for more things, some of the things they’re promising now may become a reality in a few decades. Kinda like the ridiculous idea to sell dog food on the internet during the dot com bubble. It was ridiculous then, but eventually the logistics caught up and more than a decade after the dot com bubble you could indeed buy dog food on the internet. I imagine it will be like that with AI. Eventually some (though not all) of the things they say you’ll be able to do in six months may actually happen… 15 years from now. But it will probably be enshittified and suck more than you imagined it would be.

Eh… I wouldn’t be surprised if they did exactly this in the 60s, just with more LSD involved in the experiment.

The one that has less trash in his head, obviously.

Don’t think it’s just an Outlook thing, same thing happened to me in the file explorer. Weird thing is I opened another explorer window and that worked fine, while at the same time the other window was still unresponsive.

Just windows 11 failing at windows sometimes. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Hmmm… it seems there might be something off about this system of “nobility”.

So is DEI the new “woke”?

**trillions

I haven’t been exposed to shit. Have you not been listening?

I don’t think you’re listening.

You’re on the internet, you’ve been exposed to foreign propaganda. If you’re conscious of it, you’ll be able to better spot it.

If you insist on being so naive and pretend everything that makes you outraged on the internet must be real, you’re open to manipulation.

How cute, you’re a millennial and so you think that makes you special. You’ve been exposed to imagery of a war on the other side of the world and so you think it entitles you to be an asshole to people where you live.

It may be hard for you to accept, but you’re not all that much different from the boomers. Just mindlessly consuming things on the internet that make you angry. Not giving any thought about who is making you angry and for what purpose. Boomers tend to gravitate towards the Russian propaganda, while you gravitate towards Chinese and Iranian propaganda.

The only thing that I find offensive about the Iran conflict is that western lives and resources are being wasted fighting people we have no reason to hate.

The Iranian regime is making you hateful. It’s easier to convince people of lies than it is to convince people they’ve been lied to.

My conversations with younger generations are basically identical to my conversations with boomers. Same tendency towards conspiracy theories, same distrust of any media source that’s not conforming to their feelings. Your generation doesn’t make you anything special.

Are you so naive as to think the Lego videos were the only thing they’ve produced? Iran is behind only China and Russia in terms of internet propaganda operations. It’s fairly trivial to count the number of accounts on social media that are active every day, but coincidentally not active at times when the power’s out in Iran. They operate troll farms same as China and Russia does.

How do you think the Lego videos came out of nowhere and got picked up by the algorithms? Upvoted by the troll farms.

I’ve seen some strange activity on Lemmy like the exact same content being posted from multiple accounts. Always pro-Iran and anti-Israel.

You’re being incredibly naive if you think they just put out some cute little Lego videos and nothing else. You’re the target of an information warfare campaign, and it seems to be working. You need to think a little more about what content you’d expect troll farms in China, Russia, and Iran would be producing.

There’s a difference between justice and revenge. There is no such thing as revenge against a country. Germany still exists today even after the horrible crimes committed by that country in the past.

You’re being told by Iranian propaganda that you’re supposed to hate a country. But hatred doesn’t make you strong, it only makes you stupid and gullible. Willing to die just to serve the interests of some psychopath.

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I think you might’ve replied to the wrong comment?

Unless Sony is planning on selling digital meth LOL.

You’re acting like a million deaths is the same as 100,000 deaths. I’m not saying a mono-polar world is sunshine and roses. I’m saying a multi-polar world is worse. I’m giving you numbers to back that up.

It’s not like either of us is going to change the course of the world. It will likely go in the direction of a multi-polar world because the US is on the decline. You shouldn’t be so naive as to think that you should be preparing to celebrate world peace breaking out when there’s a multi-polar world. You should be prepared for world war.

Some the things you listed are just the start of that. Syria was not exactly aligned with the West. It was aligned with Russia and Iran which are pushing for this multi-polar world you seem to think will be better. Half a million people were killed in the Syrian civil war. You should expect more of that in a multi-polar world. Ukraine is another example of Russia trying to become a Great Power in a multi-polar world. It’s at least a million dead and counting in that one.

A lot of the sentimental stuff you’re talking about was gone a long time ago. You used to get a manual with a game, maybe a map, some other stuff like that. It’s been decades since that was a thing. Now you’re just getting a storage medium, and when you put it in the console it triggers a download, unless you want to play the buggy version that came out on release day.

Would you suffer the same emotional trauma if you had a leaky roof and your physical game collection got damaged and was unplayable?

Why would your favourite game that was still saved on your console not be playable but putting a disc with the same data on it somehow would be?

You’re getting a little too upset over the potential that you might not be able to play some games you deleted.

It sucks that people won’t be able to sell or give away games, but it’s a little over-dramatic to be upset over not having some box in your attic.

So it’s mostly sentimentality? That’s just the way it goes with tech, you have to get used to new ways of doing things.

Why I remember as a kid getting pop and chips at the gas station when my parents stopped there to fill up. If I get an EV my children won’t ever have that experience.

I don’t think sentimentality is a valid reason to stick with old technology.

The concerns about Sony supporting the servers long term and the fact that it’s unlikely people will be able to sell or give away their games, those are valid concerns. Sentimentality over technology is silly to me.