I don’t really know much about this topic even after reading the article. It does bother me however that there’s so many channels/server on Telegram full of spammers that seem to offer drugs and prostitution. It’s almost like those were the only things that exist in this world. Which is such a huge waste of a chat program.

Also who the hell listens to any of the nonsense influencers/politicians write in their heavily biased channels, seriously, I can’t find a sane reason to join those, yet strangely that seems to be the only reason the masses use this tool. It’s all just confusing.

I mean we’re doing ok, but our prices more than match the incomes.

Yeah I guess that’s normal, because having more money means you’ll want a bigger income and for people to afford paying high personell costs they’ll have to sell products and services at higher prices.

I get mildly annoyed every time a non-Swiss European - only having heard of typical Swiss incomes and nothing else - acts as if we were super rich.

You didn’t look annoyed. Your comment seemed neutral in tone.

Anyhow, with that much money compared to the rest of the world you are kinda “rich”-ish (depending on who you ask). Sure, you probably don’t own ten mansions and yachts, but you’re able to afford things inside and outside your country which some other people might not be able to afford (unless the product is price adjusted like eg Steam games which from what I understand are more expensive in Switcherland).

When I say “I guess in some countries people have way too much money” I don’t mean to insult the inhabitants directly, rather I’m pointing out - in a perhaps mildly provocative manner - the unequal distribution of wealth around the globe.

Alright it wasn’t clear whether or not this was after tax. Makes sense!

I think a rent of 3600 with 5000-7000 income could be sustainable. Kinda depending on the price of living, but I think the best case of 3400 each month would be enough in most of Europe. Still paying over half your salary probably wouldn’t make sense for most people unless you live there 24/7 and the place is in a really good location (eg short transits to work, family and other places people frequently visit) and you really like it and/or it’s cheaper than comparable flats.

Well I guess in some countries people have way too much money…

Yes they only considered certain places. See “NEIGHBOURHOODS COVERED IN EACH CITY SURVEYED” in the surveys pdf for a list of cities and the respective neighbourhoods.

The 1-bedroom flats in Helsinki that were considered for this study are 40-60m². All the 1-bedroom flats for this study were either 40-60m² or 60-80m², depending on the city. See “Typical dwelling sizes by category in each surveyed city (in m²)” of this surveys pdf.

Keep in mind that these numbers are for above-average flats, ie in good locations, of good size (40-60m² or 60-80m², depending on the city) and for well-earning positions. Probably not the top 1%, but still generally well paid jobs. As such the presentation is inaccurate. Those are not “average prices in the city”, but “average prices for good flats in good districts, comparable with Brussels”.

source: 2023 CURRENT MARKET RENTS (pdf)

OBTAINED THROUGH SURVEYS WITH ESTATE AGENCIES, COVERING A SPECIFIC HOUSING SEGMENT

The rent data presented in this booklet are part of a wider work programme, whose objective is to compare the relative cost of living of international civil servants in any place of employment with that of Brussels, the reference city.

Since the aim of the entire exercise is to compare “like with like”, the neighbourhoods surveyed may not necessarily be in those areas where expatriates actually live but are comparable with those actually occupied by officials in Brussels.

These neighbourhoods are described as residential areas of good quality, favoured by expatriates and professional people such as international civil servants, university staff, doctors, managers, and similar professionals, who pay their rent by themselves (i.e. not paid by their employers).

1024 = 2⁷

I’m confused, why this quotation? 1024 is 2¹⁰, not 2⁷

And sites are still more than happy to show those in the popup, just to muddy the waters and make it more complicated than it needs to be.

As far as I see it, displaying information regarding strictly necessary cookies that do not require consent is good practice.

The website linked above states that “While it is not required to obtain consent for these cookies, what they do and why they are necessary should be explained to the user.”

I think the complicated part is mostly the deliberately bad UI that is often used for cookie banners. They purposefully use a bad layout and color scheme in an attempt to push the user to just click “Accept all”. As far as I understand if a websites only had strictly necessary cookies then I think they wouldn’t even need a cookie popup in the first place though and could simply list this information on a separate “Privacy Policy” page or such.

Probably worth noting: Only things like non essential third party cookies need consent. Essential cookies for things like the users active session that are not shared don’t need a cookie banner.

Source: gdpr.eu/cookies