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  • If the government is the one building housing, they aren’t going to produce a massive variety of different types in various locations. They’re going to pick a bunch of standard types and produce those repeatedly

    Not necessarily its just the economically most efficient option. Also the government doesn’t necessarily need to provide the housing, it could only socialize the land and rent it out.

    If everyone is renting from the government, they’re not going to be doing things like renovating their kitchen or bathroom the way they want. It either won’t be allowed, or even if you’re allowed then if you go ahead and do it then need to move you’re just out the entire value despite making improvements for the next tenant

    Where I live it is quite common that one renovates the apartment they are renting. The government could also incentivise this by eg offering a rent reduction.

    There are all sorts of scenarios where socialized housing already has issues, like when they make an entire building just for disabled people. Sounds great, until you realize that means that people with those disabilities now have extremely limited location choice, and no ability to live in a building with able-bodied relatives or friends.

    It’s better then disabled people not having a house they can properly live. Also this isn’t something that has to be done and I personally don’t of this happening (if it did, that society likely didn’t have good support for disabled people in general, so disabled people would likely have had trouble affording a house at all regardless of housing system)

    In socialized housing situations where there aren’t enough total units, which is most of them, it also becomes almost impossible to move because they rarely like playing music chairs and tracking where everyone wants to go to. They just slap the next person on the list into a unit.

    Housing markets without out enough units exist in a non socialised housing market as well and then they just slap the highest paying (most wealthy) person into the unit. Not much better if you ask me



  • Who defines the Value how? Is it just the price it was last sold for? Is there an option to just give up the land? If so, wouldn’t it discourage the use of land as you then have to pay a huge tax regardless of if your endeavors are successful?

    If you compensate the tax with a reduced income tax I think most people would still have way less as they don’t even pay that much income tax to begin with. And disregarding the usual UBI problems, I don’t think that the tax would make enough money to give everyone a UBI of 30k-50k.

    Also this is practically mass expropriation, at that point you might as well sozialise the land and then rent them out/provide universal housing directly



  • And around 65% of residential properties are owned by the family that live in them.

    But if the families that live own them is it really a investment? I know home ownership culture in the US is a bit different, but are those that buy the homes to live in them really a problem? Aren’t the people owning homes without the intention to use them as housing but as a way to make/invest their money the problem? What would be won with the residents no longer owning/buying the home they live in?