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Cake day: August 9th, 2023

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  • If the key is only held by the doe then how are you ever going to get that deposit? Bring your trash to them? If not then everyone needs to have access, which means no encryption. One could of course feasibly leave out who bought the thing. To prevent fraud though you would probably have to save what the thing is (otherwise someone will just produce trash in China with valid token IDs from the database just to get the deposit) and having a database of that is in it self a very bad thing for businesses at least. You don’t want your competitors to know exactly how much you are selling, otherwise you will definitely get bought out at your lowest point.

    Maintaining such a database would be a nightmare too, and all that just to make sure the tokens do fall in value with inflation? I don’t see the point really. Either fix the value for a couple of years, or let it rise through inflation that would incentivize the collection of old garbage at least.


  • Oh, no. I’m quite aware. The companies that can do it have a large enough effect in my life as it is. I really do not wish for scammers, random trolls, foreign government or home invader (tracking where you are based on purchases) to join them.

    Right now I can make it hard for the big players by using the right tools and services. This would make it completely impossible.


  • If you want to sell a product you would have to register that deposit in the database, similarly if you get it back you have to access the database to know how much to pay out. If you don’t want to limit selling products to large businesses everyone needs access.

    Sure, consequences for littering are fun and all, but the passive surveillance that allows is terrifying imho.










  • En, I don’t know. So much innovation has happened because of parent workarounds. Also they can kind of stop big companies just completely copying some innovation and driving the inventor out of businesses It’s pretty apparent in the 3d printing industry. Companies like Prusa, E3d, Ultimaker, MakerBot and Aleph-Objects brought consumer 3d printing from basically a hot glue gun to better than some $100k+ industry machines. All of them used to be completely open sourced. Ok, MakerBot and to some degree Ultimaker just went off the deep end, but Prusa is now also holding back their design files for a while after release, E3d has released their new hotend as basically closed Source. Why? Well they want to avoid going the path of Aleph-Objects who had to sell out to a holding company because Chinese manufacturers copied everything as fast as it could be developed and sold it for a fraction of the price.

    I’d love if it didn’t have to be this way, but it kind of does now.

    Edit: if near monopolies like intel AMD and Nvidia would have to give up their parents the world would most definitely be a more innovative place :D