And time is running out to do meaningful things on any platform. They’re quickly taking them over. It’s not just for fun

In my opinion that makes it a big failure. But also eye opening. There is so many here who say they will fight some nazis in the upcoming Civil War, yet can’t be pissed to do anything now.

Also I’m starting to see moderators may be big contributors to this failure on the left. The right grip and control over groups like it is some military unit is the box I’m talking about. It creates a space where everybody is in lock step or removed. But everybody that remains are all low energy, low effort people. No passion. No energy.

Stay with me for a minute. We know governments and just about any one wages warfare at all times. All except the left. Steve Bannon and Charlie Kirk are out there working with Cambridge analytics. Proud boys joined with backyard militias and eventually becoming ICE. Peter Thiel funded Joe Rogan to become the mouth of MAGA. That is what we can see. When people we calling this stuff out, they were called crazy or to go touch grass. But they were right.

We have to assume that behind the scene there is equal or greater effort. You can see this in all our protests. All our efforts. All our ideals. Something is broken. There was 700 million people in the streets without any effect. That wasn’t the only time. Something is steering the left into these black holes of effort. There is an old guard that is protecting this.

We need new ideas and generators. Lemmy should be that. But instead we again get tight boxes and people yelling about car heads and issues that shouldn’t be the upfront focus.

But do you organize in a meaningful way. Like a way that produces some kind of result. If you were the boss of lemmygrad. You’ve taking all your life savings out and lemmygrad comes to you to say they’ve helped organize a protest or some action and as a result you have …

Growing numbers? Changed policy? Changed minds? Originated ideas keep things fresh and exciting?

Where?

And what measurable impact has it created?

Yea?

Do they?

Do you think they are?

You ever take creative people and box them. Lemmy is the box.

Lemmy isn’t the only exemple of this. I was just expecting something different given it is suppose to be left. I was wrong. It’s the worst parts from other boxes.

Lemmy likes to make noise about Trump but would rather not discuss the politics or do anything about it.

Lemmy is the “i don’t do politics”

😆 I saw this posted and thought of lemmy immediately

Something like that. I see a weird pattern with articles about AI and articles about immigration in right wing circles. They’re the same. Like the themes and focus in the headlines for each all seem to be reused

The left should protest democrats until they put up good candidates

Go back a couple months and lemmy has a bunch of posts defending this using children as the reason. Weirdly only a week or so of activity then it stopped.

Yea I’m agreeing with this. I think we’re at a point that every country needs to band together and block these sites. I’m not seeing any benefit to having these as they are

Im coming back because I had another thought. Why don’t we focus on marketable protests like this online rather than trying to get people in the streets?

They all lulled us with meme culture. Instead what we needed was to create anti ads. Any time our podcast or content creators began showing ads, then we should have first been super pissed off. Pissed Off because these people ruined television. We were in a time when companies were creating patents were you had to shout the brand name at your TV to turn off the commercial. The internet was content creation without those capitalist fucks. Second we should have made an effort to create as hostile and environment to them as possible. Sorry to the little guy, but go to cable access.

For every ad that sucked our free time, we could have produced at least 2 anti ads. Like when a podcast advertised for zockdoc or whatever, we all needed to leave comments like “pretty sure they told my aunt she had cancer even though it was just a cough” or if it’s some drop shipper on reddit acting like they just found this cool temu star lamp then every comment should have been about how these lights burst into flames and killed your entire family.

We need to make the internet as hostile as possible to advertisers. They are the reason we are tracked and why have enshittification. They built the systems to track our profiles and market to us all under the guise of selling ads to random content creators. Why is pewdiepie and Jack Paul and Joe Rogan millionaires now meddling in our politics. Because we didn’t defend this new frontier. We knew they’d create data scarcity, we knew we had to stop it, but they rat fucked us with cat videos and memes.

I’m with you, I just think on top of those we also need to focus on where people are. Facebook does the heavy lifting now. They show you the most popular right wing groups now. It’s easy to post to them

no they don’t. That is what they tell their people. Israel is a foot hold into the Arab countries. Any military needs to be able to deploy rapidly. First to the battle has strategic advantage and smaller less powerful armies have destroyed larger ones just with that advantage. Israel lets America control that area and gives intelligence that it wouldn’t have otherwise. Without Israel, they lose a major strategic advantage to controlling the Arab world. The Big J side is all woo woo. Not even sure I’ve seen anyone really say that. Almost all of America’s moves are to control territory that gives their military the ability to deploy rapidly and to control territory.

I think it’s a bold strategy to leave the bigger more populated and used platforms to constantly exist on the smaller less relevant ones that never grow and offer everything the major platforms do just worse.

Shall we take Stalingrad? nonono it’s full of nazi’s, lets focus on Dieppe

That doesn’t make any sense. We all left these platforms. Like an exodus. How would that make it harder for these nazi’s to take over these platforms?

Is that enough? Isn’t there only like 11 million on mastadon?

Makes me think they’re there to scan the entire stadium and upload it to their new tracking database