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  • I’d argue that the taxes are a separate cost, which would be paid separately rather than being included in the “purchase price” you’re using your dollar to offset. In OP’s example, the TV requires electricity to run, but the cost of that electricity is (presumably) not bundled into the purchase price. Just like maintenance on the house would not be included up front, as it’s a separate, additional cost.

    If you reject that, I’d argue that the land will exist well beyond the fall of civilization, and at some point, there won’t be a government to tax it. It will, however, still exist. If the land costs $400,000, and taxes are $10k / year, and we expect Earth to last about 8 billion years, and we expect government taxing the land to exist for, say, generously, 10,000 of those years, that’s only a net cost of $0.0125 per year. In this case, the land itself only costs $0.00005 per year, so you could buy quite a lot of things for your dollar, in fact.






  • it’s that you are attacking very specific peripheral claims

    I’m countering the claims you’re making. I’m not going to intuit your arguments. If you want to clearly state your argument in its totality, I’ll address it in its totality.

    Your original claim was:

    The real issue is not that current landlords are exceptionally greedy (the rules of capitalism assume and encourage everyone to be as greedy as possible), it’s that there isn’t enough housing stock to give everyone who wants one a unit.

    The article you linked above did not support this argument, as it said the majority of people in that age range living with their parents are doing so because they don’t make enough money or don’t want to give money to a landlord, not that there isn’t housing available to rent.

    The fact that you’re trying to exclude houses that are available for rent (presumably for prices that people can’t afford) from the above stated numbers is yet another example of moving the goalposts because, based on your original stated argument, those should be included in the discussion.

    If you narrow your argument enough times, you’ll find something that’s not easily countered - obviously. “There’s 20 million people who want to live in Manhattan, but there’s not enough units for them!” would technically be correct, but it’s a worthless argument to make. Yes, some people will end up living outside of their ideal best case scenario, but you know what? I think getting everyone into houses is the first step, and we can work on improving the location of those houses second. Someone who’s unemployed and unhoused in LA could be unemployed and housed in San Diego and their situation would be immensely improved.


  • You are moving the goalposts every time you post. First there’s not enough housing to give everyone a unit. Provided a link that counters that claim. Then the vacant housing is derelict / decrepit. Provided link that counters that claim. Then the housing isn’t in the city. Provided link that counters that claim. Then there’s not enough housing in LA specifically to cover the homeless population (which I will note includes a lot of folks who were sent to LA from elsewhere in the country after becoming homeless).

    You can keep making excuses and changing your argument all you want, but the fact of the matter is, there’s a lot of housing that isn’t being used, or that’s being priced too high to accommodate the people who need it. In fact, if you include that latter statistic, there’s plenty of vacant housing in LA, even - 171,353 homes vs. your stated 75,518 homeless. You’re going to an awful lot of trouble to attempt to find an argument supporting your view, and you haven’t linked a single source for any of it.

    Maybe consider that perfect doesn’t need to be the enemy of good?



  • but it still represents tens of millions of Americans.

    From the linked article:

    According to the U.S. Census, there are approximately 17 million vacant houses across the nation.


    If a house is vacant, it’s probably because it’s subject to a legal dispute, derelict and uninhabitable, slated for demolition, for sale, or being used for short-term rentals (which should also be banned but that’s only tangentially related).

    What’re you basing that on? Because the US census bureau disagrees:

    But the largest category of vacant housing in the United States is classified as “seasonal, recreational or occasional use,” commonly referred to as seasonal units. These vacant structures cover a wide range of housing units, from part-time residences and hunting cabins to beach houses and timeshares.

    Point is, there’s plenty of housing, but greed - either people who own multiple houses and do not rent them out, or people who have them up for rent or sale but have priced out a large part of the nation, is creating an artificial scarcity.








  • There’s plenty of censorship on Lemmy, but unlike Reddit, the censorship is orchestrated by the individual server, not by a corporation in control of the whole ecosystem. Go post something pro-capitalist on lemmy.ml, or something claiming climate change is a hoax on slrpnk.net, or something anti-trans on lemmy.blahaj.zone and see how fast it gets taken down - you could consider that censorship, but the reason Lemmy is better than Reddit in this regard is that you can go post that same thing on another instance, in a community that supports those views, and it’ll stay up. It’s all up to the administration of the individual instance.

    Even if you can’t find an instance / community that will espouse your unique views, you can create your own, and post whatever you like, and everyone who federates with you will be able to see it. That’s how Lemmy is resistant to censorship.

    I’m not touching the lemmy.ml question with a ten foot pole, someone else can field that one.