This suddenly triggered a memory of one specific art attack but I’ve been scouring YouTube and so far haven’t had much luck finding it. I haven’t seen all that’s available but I’m getting a bit sick of it despite my desire to still see it again. Maybe someone here remembers it.

• I would have watched it in the 90s I think sometimes between 94-96. But I can’t say for sure it wasn’t a rerun from an earlier period
• The particular art attack was a night scene of traffic on what I think was a wet road with a truck or lorry, the perspective is of the lorry heading towards the viewer, though a little bit profile, not directly head on
• I think it was drawn on black paper
• It may have been done with white and yellow chalk, certainly I remember the colours white and yellow being used
• It was demonstrating ideas around being able to hint at the impression of objects at night without drawing the full object, only the outline of parts of it that would be illuminated by light sources which were headlights and smaller lights attached to the sides and corners of the lorry
• It involved doing something kind of like how a little kid would draw a sun with a crude circle and rays but then some quite clever technique was employed to smudge those little suns and their rays in very straight lines used to trace the hint of outlines of traffic
• It was finally finished off with some kind reflection on the road surface, don’t recall how he did it

I’ve going through ep after ep, nowhere to be found. The wiki for art attack has only two mentions of “night” and it’s neither of the two mentioned episodes, there’s only one mention of “traffic” and it’s in regards to using traffic cones. There’s a mention of “truck” but that wasn’t it either, I checked. There’s no mention of “lorry”. Couldn’t find anything to do with “wet roads” either. Driving me nuts.

If everyone talks like this all the time and it influences how AI models produce text outputs, then those models are basically getting it right and would be indistinguishable from normal people since that’s how all people will speak.

Is that either way or either way?

Ironically, either of them depending on the situation. Sometimes I even express the concept that I am indifferent to the choice between two things or happy with both of them by saying “ee-ther, eye-ther”

Once upon a slurp slurp slurp

I realise the dumbass here is the guy saying programmers are ‘cooked’, but there’s something kind of funny how the programmer talks about how people misunderstand the complexities of their job and how LLMs easily make mistakes because of an inability to understand the nuances of what he does everyday and understands deeply. They rightly point out how without their specialist oversight, AI agents would fail in ridiculous and spectacular ways, yet happily and vaguely adds as a throw away statement at the end “replacing other industries, sure.” with the exact same blitheness and lack of personal understanding with which ‘Ace’ proclaims all programmers cooked.

That’s got to be the key to all this, specificity, it’s great that it’s got natural language processing to simplify things but sometimes that’s what’s actually getting in the way. What they should really do is have a special version of chatGPT for programming where users can interact with it in a very special form of structured English. It’s still natural language, this is the future after all, none of that zeroes and ones crap like the stone age, but just highly specific words with carefully defined meanings particular to making repeatable and executable steps in a pattern that does the same thing every time in response to inputs to produce outputs. You could then “speak” to one of these LLM things using this carefully structured English to automate specific tasks. The real kicker would be that you could tell it to chain together a bunch of these tasks you’ve had it automate for you to build up in to something much more complex. This would really harness the power of AI because at each step it’s made it for you, with minimal input from yourself because you’re just ‘talking’ to it in a very specific way. Admittedly this approach would be a little bit less obvious for new users than a standard LLM, but if an average person kept doing this for like a year or two they’d get pretty adept at this manner of speech, it’d be kind of like learning another language and people have been doing that for as long as there’s been people, I speak in a language everyday, I’m doing it right now. We could make it easier too, we could have courses and schools to help people get better at it faster.

Maybe he came back really quite some time ago and died in obscurity trying desperately the whole time to persuade everyone he was a big deal and ever since people are still waiting around wondering "when’s this second coming happening?’ having no idea they missed it and it was pretty lame.

Yeh I think the phrase “shit your pants” definitely implies like the same account of piop that you would have dumped in the toilet in a deliberate manner, except in your pants and most likely accidentally.

I mean if you have any choice in the matter it’s obviously time to go home.

Yeh, like a whole lot of US politics and a smattering of more global politics and an even smaller smattering of just bad things that have happened recently. When it’s a community not dedicated to that kind of thing it’s a post on something tangentially related to it, or a commentary upon it. Occasionally it’s not even tangentially related to the supposed focus of the community and someone is just attempting to deliberately inject such subject matter in there artificially, a lot of the rest of the time it’s the comments where somebody finds a very tenuous connection to capitalism or Donald Trump or landlords. They’re all interesting or maddening enough topics to keep me scrolling but no amount of passion can resist fatigue and boredom after some time. The only other topic that is reliably separate from those other Lemmy greatest hits are people complaining about Reddit or Linux/FOSS discussions which again, are juuuust interesting enough to kinda make me feel like at least there’s something here but it’s not exactly a barrel of laughs. I realise that comments like this one are their own particular genre of lame, complaining about Lemmy itself as if it contributes, but since you ask lol.

You know I’m not sure. I sure spend a lot of time here on Lemmy but somehow I’m not sure I even exactly like it. I was going through my feed to see if I could find a kind of quirky counterintuitive answer that I could justify by saying at least it’s not some super depressing news or angry commentary but they’re kinda… all like that.

I guess I cherish all of them equally as much in that I somehow keep coming back.

Ah I knew it’d be something that should have seemed obvious to me only after it’s explained.

What’s com’s?

Haha, did you ever try it out? Maybe it really was your life long calling.

Will it actually kind of was ironically. I was going to try and make a go of it, but I was immensely worried I’d be caught in the act and having to maintain the channel flipping with the remote made things awkward too. When it suddenly tuned in consistently I thought I’d hit the jackpot but then I got so worried I’d leave evidence I flicked away from the channel again before I could really you know, get anything out of it.

Once I went on holiday in Europe as a young teen. The hotel room had a tv with like 2-3 free normal channels and extra channels including porn that you could access if you called the front desk and gave them credit card information. I definitely wasn’t going to do that since I didn’t have a credit card and this room was booked in my parents’ names, however the whole reason I knew about this was because I was flicking the through the normal channels simply because I was bored and I accidentally flipped past the porno channel. You weren’t supposed to be able to see anything on there because they want you to pay up for that so when you land on this channel you’re presented with some kind of teletext on black screen saying something like call reception to access with a phone number or something, however, when you first flick to this channel, it takes a little while to kind of tune in to it before it displays the teletext and as it tunes in it looks just like the image from this post before instantly clearing in to a complete picture and you get about 1 almost 2 seconds of whatever porn was showing at the time and then the paywall. So being pretty desperate, obviously I flicked up past the channel and back down again to get my 1-2 seconds of porn and did this repeatedly over and over again. Funnily enough, I would have been content with this uncomfortable viewing arrangement but after doing this in a rhythm for a while I noticed that sometimes you’d get 1 second or sometimes 2, or sometimes even like a full 5 seconds or more and this would happen in no particular order of successive channel flips when then suddenly it just flicked on to the channel permanently with no interruption. I have no idea why that happened but this image definitely reminds me of that. Funnily enough I didn’t really take advantage of this luck because I was so shocked by that suddenly happening and so worried it might get billed to the room anyway that I just flicked away from the channel and turned it off.

I think around about the 2008th to 2012th season of the AD series the writing was starting to pick up a bit, they’re just sorta phoning it in now and trying to spice it up with some shark jumping B stories about the political backdrop .

That shit drives me insane I really want to turn it off.

Just make sure you don’t use it, or fail to clarify and confirm the meaning of its use, in a business setting or you could be in some trouble.