And people say you have to be a hacker to use Linux.

I was joking, but I aslo tie it to eza lol

How did you abbreviate ls?

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Well Republicans have even more power than the Democrats, so I guess they must be an even more serious organization for progressives!

Not for progressives, but single issue voters have shaped it.

Picking your nose and eating it. Still better than your proposed action items, after all.

So do you want productive chat and ideas or are you just going to keep trolling?

What is this “serious organization for progressives”?

As serious as we have in the US. Do we have any DSA in congress? State? Local? So tell me where is our political organization?

Picking your nose and eating it is also an actionable item, and it accomplishes just as much. More even, in that you’re not lying to yourself that you’re actually doing anything.

So what is your proposed action items? You use a lot of words to no say anything useful. Unless you are trolling.

*Psst that italics above is me being serious. What is your position? I am curious if you have anything worth understanding. *

You can’t answer it either, lol, that’s why you’ve been reduced to pretending you can influence the Dems when you’ve conclusively demonstrated that you can’t.

I did answer it and you are making fun of my answer right there. Fair enough, but I have asked you what your ideas are, and all you can say is to twiddle your thumbs.

Voting dem and making it more progressive is an actionable item. What is your alternative that is so much better?

What serious organization for progressives is there?

If you don’t have an answer for this you are just trolling and not serious about any matter.

Some people hate practically it seems

Why in Earth would you want it to take over the social media space?

So that the rest can be free with us.

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Its also one we have a better chance to influence. What serious organization for progressives is there?

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There are online SMS/email you can use. Still you can skip the verify step for the email. Letting an account age and gather some karma (with few comments to not trip spam filter) should help.

I’d go topublic WiFi before vpn

Done, but the dial up is going to take a while for the reply

I understand the logic, I just think it’s intellectually dishonest and dilutes the meaning of the word fascist to the point it becomes meaningless.

I dont think it does if they are increasingly fitting the definition. More over there is no definition for fascist; just traits of it. I recommend reading Umberto Eco’s “Ur Fascism” for it.

Still in my corner of the world. Libertarians (as they identify and are members of groups with that branding) only care about “government size” when it comes to helping others. Not a peep when discussing ICE or similar.

Im aware that libertarians online will say they are not real libertarians, but that is what all libertarians say about libertarians. Forgive me for not being concerned for what libertarians have to say about themselves.

Lots of people are calling conservativism and even libertarianism fascism

We do so because they keep siding with fascists and promoting their policies. They side with gutting social safety nets and worker/consumer protections.

Replacing the EPA with a market driven EPA is just not going to solve problems; otherwise the market would have before getting to the point of having an EPA.

Fascist want a small government because it will be easier for them to topple. Libertarians are at best naive to ally with them.

The end goal of many libertarian policy is to empower corporations (weather libertarians had that intention or not). The guilded age in US history is pretty much what we would go back to.

You can’t force social change from the top down.

I know what you mean. Still the free market didn’t end slavery or give us safe work places. In those issues libertarians today are consistently advocating for those who are against those civil liberties and worker protection. Hence why they have rightfully earned the view of being fascists.

Libertarians find themselves between a rock and a hard place, so they inevitably choose the side that overlaps most with them.

Yeah, there is a word for what they are overlapping with.

What progressives want is also authoritarian

I don’t see how prioritizing civil rights over property is authoritarian.

E: in principal I’m empathetic to the want to be left alone aspects of libertarians. History informs us that many of their ideas don’t work. Even by their own logic of robust individuals they do not work.