Plato’s • Philosopher Kings

I’ve tried to explain it to others but like you they swore at me, took my arguments out of context or proportion or used propaganda to negate my point.

Even amongst socialists you will find little proponents for Philosopher Kings.

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Thanks to this eloquent statement you fulfill the definition of Tankie and I’ll be blocking you, any other tankies please block me too.

I’m talking about reform of the definition or the method to reach socialism. Like the difference of methods between Rosa Luxemburg, Lenin, Mao, Eduard Bernstein.

I am, currently the quotations of Mao, and to be honest it sounded great until he explained that his definition of democracy was not mine or most people’s in current day.

As a dutch citizen with a parliamentary voting system (not FPTP barbarism) it seems to me deeply egotistical and frightening to read his definition:

1. The fact that the proletariat revolution prevailed means that the following state body is inherently democratic: this ignores that you need a small minority of well armed people for a revolution compared to a majority vote
2. That using Marx’s democratic centrism as democracy ignoring the obvious corruptible methods defended by his other notes: of unity through punishment for those against him.

Next you’ll tell me Robert Owen is not a socialist, or that reform can not happen with socialism.

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I love baking biscuits but is a good gateway to moving to baking bread… and space cake.

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In bad faith would be acting as if I was a Communist and then twisting the argument to undermine ML

As a user with a red rose as icon and not of a *.ml server it is on you for assuming that I am a ML.

On the other hand I find it to be bad faith to follow Russian oligarch news networks then call oneself a Communist or use the atrocities of west to bothsides or even dismiss those of countries donning the hammer and sickle.

To interject I’m really enjoying this conversation with you we’re mostly keeping things civil

While I obviously don’t have much knowledge on American history I can tell that an American ML’s opinion on even the word defence has other connotations to it.

On the other hand using said trauma as justification that military defence can not exist in other countries is an overreaction.

Yes that’s what happens when you have opinions that aren’t based directly off of one person.

Never!

Continue to have comments get removed

You are so angry that a lemmy.ml mod removed your comment about hair.

Please don’t call me a dipshit

Are you following my account to get back at your mods for removing your hateful comment?

Yes the US indeed has ulterior motives, whom I don’t agree with but they are not a defence only military and as such don’t apply to my initial statement of self defence.

NATO from what I’ve read has been picky about what constitutes as defence and invasion, that’s not to say that I by default agree with all of thier choices.

Territorial integrity definitely has a material impact to the populace ask Anne Frank.

Your first sentence is a straw man and is just dishonest.

The second sentence would make Vladimir Putin proud. When as the great empire of Ukraine gained any ground over the lines drawn after the collapse of the USSR?

That’s their problem, not mine

That’s fair so long as bombs aren’t flying on your neighbours house.

Simply throwing some links over the fence is not a rebuttal, you need to use those sources and explain them using exerts

copy pasting from a predefined communism ™️ data lists is not a much of anything.

Are you kidding me, worker rights have existed and have progressed far before the Cold War I’m talking 1906!

Of the 3 major parties which of them had to risk resentment? No, This was the strength of unions voting in union leadership to enact workers rights. The socialist influence is fallacy of the red scare on its head, had socialism been popular the Socialist party wouldn’t have lost thier only seats in parliament but would have been the most popular party.

European countries initial worker protections that you mentioned

Your words not mine

That is why I’m only defending the concept on the requirement that it is to defend your country not attack another.

The Japanese or Dutch self defence forces are different to the US or Russian invasion troops.