I think you lost my meaning. It the other poster who wants to claim preventing disease by ending pregnancy early is eugenics.

Either I didnt say something right or I completely agree with you.

I dont know what to tell you. Youre not someone I would goto for insight into intelligence or morality.

A single person can be immoral but that doesnt mean morality doesnt exsist. They acknowledge they are being immoral by not applying reason and are stupid to do so. Yes the individual can benefit from being immoral but we are talking about society, when referring to eugenics, which does not benefit from immoral behavior.

That is just not true. Morals involve reason and logic. Take one ethics class. Take one single ethics class.

“eugenics is unwise”

Is a statement describing applying reason to derive a moral understanding.

You can have morals that use simple or flawed reason but that is indicative of low intelligence.

You claimed that they claim intelligence and morality were tethered somehow.

I did not. Where?

IQ measures the likelihood of someone being successful based on an age category. It has little to do with actual critical thinking. In a society that only values IQ it becomes meaningless because its only feeding off itself.

Sorry, explain again, what argument are you making?

Societies have 100% operated under other moral structures. Under the moral operative that human life is inherently valuable our society has progressed further then any other recorded civilization.

Im 100% right. You normalize eugenics you will set society back 100 years.

Intelligence doesn’t make you more ethical

Lol.

Nope, eugenics is a colloquial term. You move from it or be a nazi

They are. They are making the claim that intelligence and morality are completely separate then immediately demonstrating how they are not. Unless OP is making the claim they are not intelligent and should be ignored…

Eek, guess they gun zap you if you get a cold.

Then call it something else, I dont care if you think if it fits the definition, you can modify the term or create a new one. Normalizing eugenics is insanity.

You’re contradicting yourself

Eugenics isn’t a bad idea because it’s unwise (although, it is)

You’re trying to make a moral argument but morality isn’t magically untethered from intelligence.

Im not playing that game. They can try to rebrand but to me they are the same.

Its really good.

Youre not supporting the idea of eugenics because you know it to be lunacy. If they were acting in good faith, the more intelligent society would recognize the lunacy as well. If not they would remain dumb.

So the ideas that their parents instilled are stupid and the “intelligent” person is stupid. So you didnt achieve a more intelligent society.

You dont know the banality of my id