In fact, saints kinda tended to die horribly…

It’s fun to see the stock market itself reach the ultimate phase of enshitification

Exactly. I punch you in the head with Harris, you’re gonna escalate that shit right back and punch me with Trump. Consequences for actions is justice. It doesn’t matter if you’re too stupid to understand why you deserve those consequences.

Unless, of course, they’re Arab-Americans. Never forget, never forgive, right?

And that is the risk they accepted, same as many of those “immigrants, queer people, women, leftists, and plenty of others”, and I’m gonna guess you too, accepted the risk of supporting the party that, as you said yourself, “absolutely deserves blame for abandoning them, lying to them, and treating their lives as disposable”. And if you consider that something to neither forgive nor forget, then you also must understand that you did, in fact have something to do with their abandonment too.

So, you’re angry at them for being willing to throw the people who were willing to throw them under the bus under the bus?

I’d guess part of the plan is that it wouldn’t.

Those are not contrary, but complementary things.

Alternatively, if it suddenly starts working, we know they aren’t writing it.

I think the Saudis own that now.

The tweeter 679 Enthusiast/@marionumber4 may not be literate or English proficient to understand this, and may be a bot, non English-proficient troll, or just posting whatever for a couple of clicks of validation.

This from a post that gets the Bush wrong…

The problem is if they’re already in the tent, and are still pissing in. Then keeping them in just gives them reach.

It’s to make it easier to port them to cloud, for when win12 makes your PC a thin client.

Unironically, yes

I’m not interested in my answer, I want to know what you think. Do you also think it is yes?

You mean in reality? Clearly no - the 12-day war was a year ago.

Given that in this case, Iran wouldn’t have access to the US carrier group or two from the other hypothetical example, but rather the same financially dependent religiously fanatical fighters as in reality (I presume?)

Well, they do also have the PFJ JPF JPPF PFLP, I guess. Splitters…

A huge factor for this personal legitimisation would be if it actually could end the violation of human rights and not just add up to it. And here, the hypothetical Iran with the carrier groups would be far more effective (and hence legitimised) than the hypothetical Iran that enables some militias to indiscriminately fire makeshift rockets across the border, hoping to hit something meaningful.

Now, this is …novel. I was gonna say “ends justify the means”, but this isn’t even that, it’s legitimacy through… competency? Fait accompli? Like, would it be retroactively criminalized if they fuck up? Or is the intervention presumed illegitimate unless it works? Where was that joke from? “Gentlemen, here’s the new kidnapping case, obviously I’ll be taking you off duty, hand in your badges, you can have them back when you find the girl.”

I’ve heard multiple stories of people spending stupid money on goldplated Trump $1000 bills and trying to deposit them in a bank.

I gave you an answer. Shit, I’m giving you your answer: yes. I don’t see how that helps your case, but have at it:

Would you approve a humanitarian intervention, by Iran, in Israel, in 2024 CE, to force the IDF withdrawal to the 1967 borders, prosecuted through the gaggle of militias they actually have access to, granting that Israel will bomb Iran last week.

Because it was a rhetorical question, posed in callout of your bad faith argument. It’s entirely irrelevant. It can even be “yes”, as you claim it: Would you approve a humanitarian intervention, by Iran, in Israel, in 2024 CE, to force the IDF withdrawal to the 1967 borders, prosecuted through the gaggle of militias they actually have access to, granting that Israel will bomb Iran last week.

You’re the interventionist here, make your argument.

No, I’m not letting you change the subject. I told you, either there are laws, or there are no laws. If you support humanitarian intervention, then whether by jet or by rifle shouldn’t matter.