Hurricanes are getting so strong in a warming world that a Category 6 intensity should be added to the Saffir-Simpson Hurricane Wind scale, a new study finds.

Why it matters: The research shows how significantly climate change is altering storm intensity and other characteristics, as well as further underscoring the limitations of the scale.

Reality check: The paper, published Monday in the journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, does not represent an official move by the National Hurricane Center to add another hurricane category.

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      Nation by nation of course. That would have to start with a single prominent wealthy nation though.

      I just don’t see the will. Humanity in all likelyhood will follow the path of least resistance off a cliff without exercising radical violence or radical democracy. I think we’re too cowardly to act, and the owners correctly bet on that mass fear and indolence. We largely don’t think of our children, only our own immediate consequences.

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        Not all nations have legislatures. Not all nations with legislatures have legislatures that actually represent the will of the people. Not all nations are even democracies or republics.

        How exactly do you plan to get the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia on board? Because they’re a huge part of the problem. Do you think you’re going to convince the House of Saud to stop pumping oil out of the ground and selling it?

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          Not all nations with legislatures have legislatures that actually represent the will of the people.

          “Not all?” rofl almost none. The Nordic nations and that’s about it, and the market capitalists will do to them what they’ve done to the UK and are doing to the rest of Western Europe. That’s why I am without hope. I’m just commenting on the ridiculousness of our hopeless situation. It’s remarkable in in a dark way. Burning the paradise we inherited as the apex predator because we were conquered by the modern equivalent of the snake oil salesmen of old who convinced us its the only way.

          Imho, there is no solution, at least not one humanity is capable of calculating. Enioy the show, it’s basically Jackass without the self-awareness on a much larger scale. We’re not going to survive our nature with all the technologies we’re too primitive to wield responsibly.

          Probably that “great filter” astrophysicists use to explain the lack of obvious interstellar civilization activity out there. At some point, a species becomes just smart enough to develop technologies that can destroy it they lack the capacity to wield like grown ups benevolently.

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            So… your solution is to legislate this nation by nation even though most nations do not actually represent what people want and won’t legislate it because of that and due to this it means the entire species is determined and committed to destroying itself.

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      How do you end a global problem legislatively?

      The rulebook includes a pretty straightforward legislative approach to global problems.

      Article I Section 8

      The Congress shall have Power … To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

      Granted, we probably shouldn’t use that power until we’ve exhausted all possibility of resolution via treaty, but the tool is in the box, should we decide to use it.

      Legislatively, Congress could enact a wealth tax, annually conveying 20% of all registered securities held by billionaires to the IRS for liquidation. They don’t have to sell them off suddenly; we’re just going to take their shares, and sell them off to the public over a sufficiently long period of time. Monthly sales, totalling no more than 10% of market volume, until the IRS’s entire issue is sold. That takes care of American billionaires, including people like Musk and Bezos, whose wealth is in their stocks. It also takes care of any foreign billionaires with holdings in American markets.

      For billionaires in the rest of the world, Congress is empowered to decide if they want to follow or violate international law. We can put a bounty on the heads of everyone worth more than a billion.

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        Wait, sorry, so your solution is for the U.S. government to start committing assassinations in other countries?

        And you think the other countries would just sit back and let it happen?

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          I was asked for a “legislative” solution in a world without a global legislature. I answered that question.

          My “solution” is a wealth tax, targeting the registered securities of the obscenely rich, on the basis that their influence destabilizes the market and the economy, causing harm to the American people.

          I would expect other nations to follow suit, and clamp down on their own billionaires in short order.

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            I would expect other nations to follow suit, and clamp down on their own billionaires in short order.

            Why would the House of Saud do that?

            Why would Lukashenko do that?

            Why would Vladimir Putin do that?

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                I see… so your plan is to make billionaires illegal in the U.S., hope that other countries do to, but if they don’t, hope for a revolution, and if that revolution doesn’t come, commit war crimes in their countries.

                I’m sure the U.S. assassinating a Russian billionaire inside Russia won’t have any serious repercussions.

                But hey, global thermonuclear war will end global warming, so I guess you did come up with a solution.

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                  1. Not illegal. Taxed on their excesses until they are pulled from the stock market.
                  2. Louis XVI was not deposed by Americans, but by French citizens. That act was not a war crime. It wasn’t even an act of war.
                  3. The last time a private, foreign individual directly harmed American citizens, we ended up dumping his carcass in the Arabian sea. That was an act of warfare, but it certainly was not a war crime.
                  4. When they leave US markets, they no longer pose a threat to US citizens. Problem solved, without the bounty on their heads. If they want to do business in the US, they can demand their governments impose a similar cap on their wealth.

                  If they are as rich as an independent nation, I see no reason why we shouldn’t treat them as an independent nation.

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                    I’m pretty sure billionaires are a threat to the world, not just the U.S.

                    And, yes, I get that you think nuclear war is a solution, you’ve already made that clear.