• OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee
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    11 months ago

    You are not the only person voting, you not voting for a major party candidate doesn’t declare the person you dislike most the victor, it just helps them win.

    Assuming you would have voted for Biden if you only had the two major party options, then voting for anyone else or failing to vote is a vote less for Biden, which is equivalent to a vote for Trump.

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      11 months ago

      >Assuming you would have voted for Biden if you only had the two major party options

      that is not a good assumption: I only vote for candidates if I want them to win.

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        11 months ago

        The base assumption here is not that you would actually vote for either one, it’s that when given only two choices, you prefer one or the other. The only way that doesn’t hold is if you truly do not care between the two options and it’s a coin flip. If that is true, then the ‘person you hate most between the two’ still benefits, but it’s a coin flip which one it is so you don’t care.

        If you prefer Biden over Trump, you are helping Trump by not voting for Biden. And vice versa. Even if you would never vote for any major party candidate, that just means you are always helping the major party candidate you hate the most.

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            11 months ago

            I mean…you tell me your political feelings. It’s not about who won, it’s just who you are helping.

            If you hate Trump more than Hillary and you didn’t vote for one of them in 2016, you helped Trump in 2016. If you hate Biden more than Trump and you didn’t vote in 2020 then you helped Biden. But if you hate Trump more than Biden, then you helped Trump in 2020 even though he didn’t win.

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                    11 months ago

                    I’m not telling you not to vote, I’m telling you the options you have. Help the major party candidate you like the best, or the major party candidate you like the least.

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      11 months ago

      if not voting is voting for trump, then voting for trump would be like voting twice.

      this is clearly absurd election misinformation.

      non-voters are the biggest voting block in the country. there is no way what you are saying is true.

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        11 months ago

        A person who would otherwise support Biden, voting for Trump instead, is indeed a two vote swing. That is just the math of it.

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      11 months ago

      >you not voting for a major party candidate doesn’t declare the person you dislike most the victor, it just helps them win.

      only a vote for a candidate helps them win

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            11 months ago

            You’re really trying to make a razor thin distinction without a difference then. So not voting for Biden is “taking part in the creation of a situation wherein Trump is more likely to win” or whatever you need to the wording to be.

            If all Biden supporters boycott the election, Trump wins. If you’re not disputing that fact then you’re twiddling around with wording and not actually disagreeing.