President Joe Biden’s evolution on the key election issue of immigration entered a new phase when he promised to “shut down the border right now” if given new powers by Congress.
I know this is highly politicised in the USA but almost every other country in the world (yes the left leaning ones too) don’t have open borders.
A border wall or whatever is actually pretty normal and the standard. Are democrats actually opposed to this or are they just hating on it because Trump suggested it?
The US doesn’t have open borders and most borders in the world have no barriers at all. I’m not sure where you’ve got walls all along your border such that you think it’s normal.
Lol there’s no forts if that’s what you have in mind. But there’s border controls and limited walls where people hit the border. If people start entering illegally they extend the walls as needed.
Recent examples would be Colombia, Finland and Greece
Here’s an image with marks for the border barriers throughout the world from the Economist around Trump’s election. You’ll notice how most borders don’t have them. No one is saying no barriers exist, but they are not the norm. The US had some before Trump and the presence or absence of border fences has nothing to do with whether a border is “open”.
I’ve gone overland from Singapore to Paris and from Alaska to Argentina and a lot of other travel and I’ve only ever been able to just walk over the border in two places (Paraguay/brazil and iran/Pakistan)
That you didn’t hike into the wilderness to find the unfenced border has nothing to do with whether those crossings existed. The US also has border barriers around regular road crossings and tourists, like yourself, just use those places.
The issue isn’t so much the wall, it’s that there’s no sense of priority. Our immigration system is dog shit and desperately needs to be reformed. Instead of putting any effort into that, we’re huffing and puffing about a wall. It’s just the wrong focus and we fully understand it’s less about immigrants and more about Mexicans. Most illegal aliens are people who arrive by boat or plane, not crossing the southern border. They’re people who over stay their visas. We never hear about that, or any plan to combat that. We only ever hear about the stupid border wall
I know this is highly politicised in the USA but almost every other country in the world (yes the left leaning ones too) don’t have open borders.
A border wall or whatever is actually pretty normal and the standard. Are democrats actually opposed to this or are they just hating on it because Trump suggested it?
The US doesn’t have open borders and most borders in the world have no barriers at all. I’m not sure where you’ve got walls all along your border such that you think it’s normal.
Most US borders dont have walls, good grief what are they talking about.
They’re saying other countries are all walled up, which is also complete nonsense.
Lol there’s no forts if that’s what you have in mind. But there’s border controls and limited walls where people hit the border. If people start entering illegally they extend the walls as needed.
Recent examples would be Colombia, Finland and Greece
Here’s an image with marks for the border barriers throughout the world from the Economist around Trump’s election. You’ll notice how most borders don’t have them. No one is saying no barriers exist, but they are not the norm. The US had some before Trump and the presence or absence of border fences has nothing to do with whether a border is “open”.
I’ve gone overland from Singapore to Paris and from Alaska to Argentina and a lot of other travel and I’ve only ever been able to just walk over the border in two places (Paraguay/brazil and iran/Pakistan)
That you didn’t hike into the wilderness to find the unfenced border has nothing to do with whether those crossings existed. The US also has border barriers around regular road crossings and tourists, like yourself, just use those places.
Oh with obvious exceptions once inside Europe etc.
The issue isn’t so much the wall, it’s that there’s no sense of priority. Our immigration system is dog shit and desperately needs to be reformed. Instead of putting any effort into that, we’re huffing and puffing about a wall. It’s just the wrong focus and we fully understand it’s less about immigrants and more about Mexicans. Most illegal aliens are people who arrive by boat or plane, not crossing the southern border. They’re people who over stay their visas. We never hear about that, or any plan to combat that. We only ever hear about the stupid border wall
Yeah legal immigration definitely needs an overhaul in the USA.
I think it would probably get more steam if the border was less porous though.
It’s a hard sell to let in more legal immigrants when you can show photos of crowds swarming the border.